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	<title>Kommentarer til: Ekumenisk samarbeid i Bergen - prekestolbytte</title>
	<link>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522</link>
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		<title>Av: Johan</title>
		<link>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-13967</link>
		<author>Johan</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Kirkegjengerne burde spares for denslags overraskelser fra prekestolen.  På 70tallet opplevde jeg av og til at legfolk prekte . Selv  hadde jeg liten sans for denslags. Men dengang opplevde man jo i messen ofte litt av hvert som kunne være vanskelig å akseptere. Finnes det ikke klare regler for hvem som kan holde preken i en katolsk messe ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kirkegjengerne burde spares for denslags overraskelser fra prekestolen.  P&#229; 70tallet opplevde jeg av og til at legfolk prekte . Selv  hadde jeg liten sans for denslags. Men dengang opplevde man jo i messen ofte litt av hvert som kunne v&#230;re vanskelig &#229; akseptere. Finnes det ikke klare regler for hvem som kan holde preken i en katolsk messe ?</p>
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		<title>Av: Ole B</title>
		<link>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-13993</link>
		<author>Ole B</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-13993</guid>
					<description>Man burde være veldig kritisk til slike sammarbeid.
Paulsen er utnevnt "Apostel" og er kallet til å legge inn under seg alle menigheter i byen.
DKK er skjøgen i Åpenbaringen, så her er begge gått fra asken til ilden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man burde v&#230;re veldig kritisk til slike sammarbeid.<br />
Paulsen er utnevnt &#8220;Apostel&#8221; og er kallet til &#229; legge inn under seg alle menigheter i byen.<br />
<span class="caps">DKK</span> er skj&#248;gen i &#197;penbaringen, s&#229; her er begge g&#229;tt fra asken til ilden.</p>
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		<title>Av: ChristianS</title>
		<link>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-13998</link>
		<author>ChristianS</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-13998</guid>
					<description>Johan, jeg tror du kan finne regler for det i et dokument som heter GIRM. Denne presten regnes jo Katolsk sett som en lekmann, og kan derfor selvsagt ikke preke i en Katolsk messe. 

Her er et utdrag fra Redemptionis Sacramentum

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html

[64.] The homily, which is given in the course of the celebration of Holy Mass and is a part of the Liturgy itself,[142] “should ordinarily be given by the Priest celebrant himself. He may entrust it to a concelebrating Priest or occasionally, according to circumstances, to a Deacon, but never to a layperson.[143] In particular cases and for a just cause, the homily may even be given by a Bishop or a Priest who is present at the celebration but cannot concelebrate”.[144]

[65.] It should be borne in mind that any previous norm that may have admitted non-ordained faithful to give the homily during the eucharistic celebration is to be considered abrogated by the norm of canon 767 §1.[145] This practice is reprobated, so that it cannot be permitted to attain the force of custom.

[66.] The prohibition of the admission of laypersons to preach within the Mass applies also to seminarians, students of theological disciplines, and those who have assumed the function of those known as “pastoral assistants”; nor is there to be any exception for any other kind of layperson, or group, or community, or association.[146]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johan, jeg tror du kan finne regler for det i et dokument som heter <span class="caps">GIRM</span>. Denne presten regnes jo Katolsk sett som en lekmann, og kan derfor selvsagt ikke preke i en Katolsk messe.</p>
<p>Her er et utdrag fra Redemptionis Sacramentum</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/ccdds/documents/rc_con_ccdds_doc_20040423_redemptionis-sacramentum_en.html</a></p>
<p>[64.] The homily, which is given in the course of the celebration of Holy Mass and is a part of the Liturgy itself,[142] &#8220;should ordinarily be given by the Priest celebrant himself. He may entrust it to a concelebrating Priest or occasionally, according to circumstances, to a Deacon, but never to a layperson.[143] In particular cases and for a just cause, the homily may even be given by a Bishop or a Priest who is present at the celebration but cannot concelebrate&#8221;.[144]</p>
<p>[65.] It should be borne in mind that any previous norm that may have admitted non-ordained faithful to give the homily during the eucharistic celebration is to be considered abrogated by the norm of canon 767 &#167;1.[145] This practice is reprobated, so that it cannot be permitted to attain the force of custom.</p>
<p>[66.] The prohibition of the admission of laypersons to preach within the Mass applies also to seminarians, students of theological disciplines, and those who have assumed the function of those known as &#8220;pastoral assistants&#8221;; nor is there to be any exception for any other kind of layperson, or group, or community, or association.[146]</p>
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		<title>Av: Johan</title>
		<link>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-14001</link>
		<author>Johan</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://aomoi.net/blog/arkiv/1522#comment-14001</guid>
					<description>Takk for dette svaret. Dette virker jo meget klart og greitt. Synd at man i Bergen ikke har kjennskap til disse reglene, eller at man velger å overse dem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Takk for dette svaret. Dette virker jo meget klart og greitt. Synd at man i Bergen ikke har kjennskap til disse reglene, eller at man velger &#229; overse dem.</p>
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