{"id":10584,"date":"2016-02-14T17:14:16","date_gmt":"2016-02-14T16:14:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=10584"},"modified":"2016-02-14T17:16:44","modified_gmt":"2016-02-14T16:16:44","slug":"john-allen-om-motet-mellom-paven-og-den-russisk-ortodokse-kirken","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2016\/02\/john-allen-om-motet-mellom-paven-og-den-russisk-ortodokse-kirken\/","title":{"rendered":"John Allen om m\u00f8tet mellom paven og den russisk-ortodokse kirken"},"content":{"rendered":"

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\nJohn Allen skriver interessant og n\u00f8kternt<\/a> om dette m\u00f8tet som nylig ble avholdt p\u00e5 Cuba. Han uttrykker lede over at m\u00f8tet mellom de to kirkelederne endelig skjedde, men fortsetter slik:<\/p>\n

Alas, and without trying to rain on anyone\u2019s parade, there are also good reasons for caution, in large part because Moscow\u2019s motives \u2014 both in terms of the Russian church, and the Kremlin under Vladimir Putin \u2014 are open to serious doubt.<\/p>\n

(The Russian Orthodox Church is a close ally of Putin, and most observers believe Friday\u2019s meeting would not have happened without his encouragement.)<\/p>\n

In recent decades, the Catholic Church has bent over backwards to improve relations with Moscow. Given fears that Catholics try to poach Orthodox worshipers, for instance, the Church in Russia has been under what amounts to a quiet \u201cno-growth\u201d policy. Pastors have received instructions that if a Russian seeks to convert, he or she should be sent back to an Orthodox congregation.<\/p>\n

Yet despite a slew of similar accommodations, Russian Orthodox leaders still routinely exude hostility. …. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Han kommer med mange flere interessante observasjoner (les gjerne hele artikkelen) og avslutter slik:<\/p>\n

Given all that, how will we know if Friday\u2019s meeting was more than a photo-op?<\/p>\n

First, the Russian Orthodox could stop making life difficult for other Christians in their sphere of influence, whether that means Greek Catholics in Ukraine or other Orthodox Christians who want to be independent (the term in the East is \u201cautocephalous.\u201d)<\/p>\n

Second, Kirill could officially reject claims by arch-conservative traditionalists in his church that Catholic sacraments and ministries aren\u2019t valid. Catholic experience shows doing so won\u2019t make those folks go away, but it will at least prevent them from claiming they speak for the church.<\/p>\n

Third, Orthodox clergy could stop providing religious cover for Putin\u2019s imperial ambitions and establish genuine independence from state control.<\/p>\n

Fourth, Pope Francis and the Vatican could make the preceding three steps a precondition for moving forward.<\/p>\n

If those things occur, then Friday\u2019s get-together will represent a sea change. Longtime observers, however, may be forgiven for not holding their breath.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

John Allen skriver interessant og n\u00f8kternt om dette m\u00f8tet som nylig ble avholdt p\u00e5 Cuba. Han uttrykker lede over at m\u00f8tet mellom de to kirkelederne endelig skjedde, men fortsetter slik: Alas, and without trying to rain on anyone\u2019s parade, there are also good reasons for caution, in large part because Moscow\u2019s motives \u2014 both in […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10584","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10584","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10584"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10584\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10591,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10584\/revisions\/10591"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10584"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10584"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10584"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}