{"id":10652,"date":"2016-02-29T13:50:44","date_gmt":"2016-02-29T12:50:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=10652"},"modified":"2016-03-02T14:17:10","modified_gmt":"2016-03-02T13:17:10","slug":"lest-ferdig-the-shape-of-the-liturgy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2016\/02\/lest-ferdig-the-shape-of-the-liturgy\/","title":{"rendered":"Lest ferdig The Shape of the Liturgy"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"shape_of_liturgy\" Jeg har n\u00e5 lest ferdig den ganske ber\u00f8mte The Shape of the Liturgy<\/em>, av Dom Gregory Dix, og er faktisk ikke s\u00e5 veldig forn\u00f8yd med boka.<\/p>\n

Jeg syntes faktisk han var ganske preget av det man kaller arkeologisme<\/em>, som pave Pius XII ford\u00f8mte p\u00e5 50-tallet, men som en del liturger likevel var og er p\u00e5virket av. F.eks. tenker Dix seg at p\u00e5 100- og 200-tallet – da han mener at ordets gudstjeneste (synaxi) og eukaristien ble feiret separat – kunne s\u00f8ndagens eukaristi tidlig om morgenen var kanskje ikke mer enn 20 minutter, og v\u00e6re et noks\u00e5 typisk m\u00e5ltidsfellesskap (selv om offertanken ogs\u00e5 var med). Preken (og bibellesninger) skulle alts\u00e5 holdes p\u00e5 et annet tidspunkt, men det har jeg nok litt vanskelig for \u00e5 se for meg. Dix mener ogs\u00e5 at alterets posisjon fram til ca 700 var at biskopen\/presten var vendt mot folket (men han skriver litt om dette emnet).<\/p>\n

I det hele tatt er Dix nesten bare opptatt av det som skjedde fra til \u00e5r 600 – selv om han skriver litt om forandringene rundt \u00e5r 800 (med Karl den store) og enda mindre om utviklingen senere i middelalderen – og det han skriver om de f\u00f8rste \u00e5rhundrene i \u00f8st og vest virker ganske spekulativt.<\/p>\n

En ganske grundig anmeldelse av boka skriver bl.a.:<\/p>\n

… Later scholarship has considered Dix to be near the mark but not always on it. For example, Dix argued that the Eucharistic Prayer grew out of a solemn three-part Jewish prayer, the Birkat ha-Mazon, or blessing after a meal, and, in particular, out of its second paragraph of \u201cthanksgivings.\u201d More recent liturgical scholarship has sought its origin in all three paragraphs of this ancient prayer, which, however, did not harden into prescribed forms among the Jews until the end of the first Christian millennium. This makes it difficult to reconstruct more than an outline of the original prayer. At best, it can be summarized as blessing-thanksgiving-supplication, and modern scholarship has criticized Dix for assuming, in a Jewish prayer context, the equivalence of blessing (Hebrew, berakah) and thanksgiving (Hebrew, yadah).<\/p>\n

Dix also assumed, following late nineteenth- and early twentieth-century German scholarship, that in the early Church the celebrant of the Eucharistic liturgy faced the congregation over the altar. The popularity of his book did a great deal to foster that practice among Anglicans and certain \u201ccatholicizing\u201d clergy and congregations among Protestants such as Lutherans and Methodists.<\/p>\n

It may have had a similar effect on Roman Catholics in laying the groundwork for the \u201creversal of the altars\u201d that swept like a tidal wave over the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church from 1965 onwards. But this was more likely due to the influence of German and French liturgical institutes (most of whose \u201cexperts\u201d were \u201cpopularizers\u201d of liturgical scholarship rather than scholars themselves). Also, the view that \u201cfacing the people\u201d was the \u201cprimitive practice\u201d had been enshrined in the English-speaking world in The Catholic Encyclopedia of 1913, and had come to be regarded as historical fact.<\/p>\n

However, this view is now acknowledged to be mistaken by most contemporary liturgical scholars: The universal early Christian practice of facing east for prayer applied also, and especially, during the celebration of the Eucharist. ….<\/p>\n

…. Some have marveled at how much he was able to do by way of digestion, assimilation, and \u201cregurgitation\u201d under highly adverse conditions, even if at some haste. So his scholarship has been characterized as brilliant but at the same time \u201cerratic\u201d or even \u201cslipshod.\u201d <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Les hele denne anmeldelsen her<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Jeg har n\u00e5 lest ferdig den ganske ber\u00f8mte The Shape of the Liturgy, av Dom Gregory Dix, og er faktisk ikke s\u00e5 veldig forn\u00f8yd med boka. Jeg syntes faktisk han var ganske preget av det man kaller arkeologisme, som pave Pius XII ford\u00f8mte p\u00e5 50-tallet, men som en del liturger likevel var og er p\u00e5virket […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10652","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10652","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10652"}],"version-history":[{"count":7,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10652\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10659,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10652\/revisions\/10659"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10652"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10652"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10652"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}