{"id":1070,"date":"2011-02-28T08:15:56","date_gmt":"2011-02-28T07:15:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1070"},"modified":"2011-02-28T18:37:21","modified_gmt":"2011-02-28T17:37:21","slug":"kraftig-debatt-i-usa-om-samboerskap-og-mottakelse-av-kommunion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/02\/kraftig-debatt-i-usa-om-samboerskap-og-mottakelse-av-kommunion\/","title":{"rendered":"Kraftig debatt i USA om samboerskap og mottakelse av kommunion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I USA er en katolsk guvern\u00f8r skilt og er n\u00e5 samboende med en annen kvinne (som ogs\u00e5 er gift tidligere, men ikke er katolikk). Denne mannen mottar fortsatt kommunion i Den katolske Kirke, og dette har skapt en hel del debatt. Kirkerettsprofessoren Edward Peters (som har en <a href=\"http:\/\/canonlawblog.blogspot.com\">interessant blogg<\/a>) <a href=\"http:\/\/canonlawblog.blogspot.com\/2011\/02\/my-brief-replies-to-albanys-brief.html\">tok opp dette<\/a>, fikk <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.timesunion.com\/capitol\/archives\/58166\/albany-diocese-responds-on-cuomo-communion\/\">svar fra bisped\u00f8mmet<\/a> og ble kraftig angrepet<a href=\"http:\/\/ncronline.org\/blogs\/distinctly-catholic\/peters-v-cuomo\"> i liberale National Catholic Reporter<\/a>. Peters <a href=\"http:\/\/canonlawblog.blogspot.com\/2011\/02\/michael-sean-winters-column-peters-v.html\">svarer deretter igjen<\/a>, og pr\u00f8ver \u00e5 forklare at dette egentlig er ganske enkelt: Lever man i synd m\u00e5 man vende om, gj\u00f8r man ikke det, m\u00e5 man i alle fall ikke motta kommunion, hvis man fortsetter \u00e5 leve i synd og fortsetter \u00e5 motta kommunion, m\u00e5 Kirken gripe inn og stoppe dette. Dynel\u00f8fting er heller ikke n\u00f8dvendig i denne sammenheng; n\u00e5r en mann og en kvinne lever sammen (og ikke er i slekt e.l.), er dette allerede en tydelig nok moralsk &#8216;skandale&#8217;. Her er et lite utdrag av Peters siste artikkel:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The first \u2018resort\u2019 in solving a problem of wrong conduct is for the individual to right the conduct. None of us is supposed to sin. When we do sin (and we all sin, CCC 1847), we should, through the grace of God, repent of it, and strive to avoid it henceforth; indeed, we should replace sin with good. If (and usually when) we again fail to do that, we should start over, knowing that God\u2019s grace is always there. The first step, then, toward resolving this particular problem (which happens to come to our attention for the reasons set out below) is for Andrew Cuomo to cease cohabiting with a woman who is not his wife. This first &#8216;resort&#8217; is not canon law at all, it is rudimentary and utterly uncontroversial traditional moral theology.<\/p>\n<p>The second \u2018resort\u2019 in a case like this &#8211; and where canon law makes its first appearance &#8211; is this: when an individual knows that he or she has gravely sinned, that person, of his or her own volition, should decline to approach for holy Communion before going to Confession. Canon 916 puts this second resort in simple terms, but again, anyone with a basic understanding of moral teaching and a basic appreciation of Who the Eucharist is, should know to avoid taking holy Communion under such circumstances.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; The third focus, and in a sense the \u2018final resort\u2019, in a case like this one, is Canon 915, which falls primarily to the diocesan bishop to enforce. &#8230; Where a member of the faithful manifestly (i.e., publicly) and obstinately persists in conduct that is gravely objectively wrong, and that person does not, in the meantime, at least refrain from approaching for holy Communion, the minister of the Eucharist must withhold holy Communion from him or her.<\/p>\n<p>The unwedded cohabitation (an act public by its nature) of sexually mature, non-familiarly related adults, gives seriously wrong example (i.e., scandal) to the community. Ecclesiastical authority need not verify that two such people are actually doing &#8216;it&#8217; before moving against the grave scandal offered by such behavior, &#8230;.  \u201ceye witnesses are not required\u201d to prove certain forms of misconduct.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, in direct proportion to the prominence of the individuals involved (can we say, state governors and television celebrities?), the degree of scandal is widened, and if either or both cohabiting individuals are divorced from prior spouses, the scandal is multiplied. And we have not even touched on Cuomo\u2019s canonical situation being further complicated by, say, his strong support for legalized abortion. What part of this analysis is so controversial?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I USA er en katolsk guvern\u00f8r skilt og er n\u00e5 samboende med en annen kvinne (som ogs\u00e5 er gift tidligere, men ikke er katolikk). Denne mannen mottar fortsatt kommunion i Den katolske Kirke, og dette har skapt en hel del debatt. Kirkerettsprofessoren Edward Peters (som har en interessant blogg) tok opp dette, fikk svar fra [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1070","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1070","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1070"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1070\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1070"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1070"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1070"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}