{"id":11714,"date":"2016-12-01T14:06:59","date_gmt":"2016-12-01T13:06:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=11714"},"modified":"2016-12-01T17:10:33","modified_gmt":"2016-12-01T16:10:33","slug":"hvorfor-saken-om-medlemsregistrering-har-blitt-sa-enormt-betent","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2016\/12\/hvorfor-saken-om-medlemsregistrering-har-blitt-sa-enormt-betent\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvorfor saken om medlemsregistrering har blitt s\u00e5 enormt betent"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Til <a href=\"http:\/\/www.verdidebatt.no\/innlegg\/11669238-det-puslete-rest-bedrageriet#svar-11669399\">en artikkel p\u00e5 Verdidebatt, kom en humanetiker med f\u00f8lgende kommentar<\/a>, bl.a.:<br \/>\n<em>&laquo;Snodig den lovbestemmelsen om at trossamfunn selv definerer medlemskriteriene. &#8230; Hvis det er riktig som du sier, at loven sperrer for statsadvokatens p\u00e5stand, s\u00e5 skal selvf\u00f8lgelige ingen d\u00f8mmes f\u00f8r lovgrunnlaget er p\u00e5 plass, og ingen lover skal ha tilbakevirkende kraft.&raquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Til dette svarte jeg, noe som jeg syns forklarer hvorfor denne saken har blitt s\u00e5 enormt betent:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Da det ble avsl\u00f8rt at vi katolikker hadde registrert noen mennesker som katolikker uten \u00e5 vite sikkert om de var katolikker, begynte vi febrilsk \u00e5 kontakte alle disse for \u00e5 sjekke om de virkelig var katolikker &#8211; og det viste over 90% av dem seg \u00e5 v\u00e6re. (Og vi var selvsagt villige til \u00e5 betale tilbake penger for alle som var feilregistrert.)<\/p>\n<p>Men da (sent i 2014, og det kom som forskrift i februar 2015) innf\u00f8rte myndighetene noe vi aldri hadde h\u00f8rt om; at alle disse katolikkene m\u00e5tte bekrefte at de ville v\u00e6re registrert som katolikker i Norge &#8211; og de ville bli underkjent inntil de hadde bekreftet et slikt \u00f8nske. Og det er disse underkjente katolikkene (som alts\u00e5 er katolikker og bor i Norge) som har gjort erstatningen de krever fra oss over 4 ganger s\u00e5 stor som den burde ha v\u00e6rt.<\/p>\n<p>Med dette nye kravet snudde myndighetene en feil vi hadde gjort (og som vi gjerne ville betale tilbake penger for) til en opplevd urett; her bruker de en uklar lovtekst og en forskrift som gis tilbakevirkende kraft, til \u00e5 kreve ca 85 millioner ekstra fra oss. Pga dette er mange katolikker sv\u00e6rt oppr\u00f8rte.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Til en artikkel p\u00e5 Verdidebatt, kom en humanetiker med f\u00f8lgende kommentar, bl.a.: &laquo;Snodig den lovbestemmelsen om at trossamfunn selv definerer medlemskriteriene. &#8230; Hvis det er riktig som du sier, at loven sperrer for statsadvokatens p\u00e5stand, s\u00e5 skal selvf\u00f8lgelige ingen d\u00f8mmes f\u00f8r lovgrunnlaget er p\u00e5 plass, og ingen lover skal ha tilbakevirkende kraft.&raquo; Til dette svarte [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11714","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generelt","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11714","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11714"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11714\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11718,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11714\/revisions\/11718"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11714"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11714"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11714"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}