{"id":1182,"date":"2011-04-02T18:29:10","date_gmt":"2011-04-02T16:29:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1182"},"modified":"2011-04-02T22:34:21","modified_gmt":"2011-04-02T20:34:21","slug":"hvorfor-feirer-vi-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/04\/hvorfor-feirer-vi-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvorfor feirer vi messen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fr. Hunwicke stiller dette viktige sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let <a href=\"http:\/\/liturgicalnotes.blogspot.com\/2008\/09\/whats-mass-for.html\">i et innlegg p\u00e5 sin blogg<\/a>, og sier at det kan v\u00e6re enten for kommunionen, for \u00e5 tilbe Herren som er til stede p\u00e5 alteret etter forvandlingen, eller det kan v\u00e6re pga av offeret. Og det siste er viktigst, mener han (og han har ogs\u00e5 tanker om kanonb\u00f8nna igjen kan bes stille av presten):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> &#8230;. the centrality of Sacrifice, in the last resort, is more important than the worship or reception of the Sacramental Christ. I hesitate to blunder carelessly and over-simplistically around in so great a mystery; it is certainly true that both &#8230;.and is more important than either  &#8230; or. But, to be simple and crude, the Eucharist is firstly a sacrifice; only when we have said this do we go on to say that it is (we can&#8217;t get away from the terminology of our Jewish roots here) a communion sacrifice. In the last resort, <strong>the Lord&#8217;s Body and Blood are present substantialiter et realiter upon our altars primarily to be the propitiatory sacrifice<\/strong> which (since the first Holy Week) replaces the the Temple cult; secondarily, to be received so that Christ&#8217;s Body and Blood can be commingled with ours; thirdly, to be adored. Look at it diachronically: most Christians in most Chrisian centuries have attended Mass without communicating. S Pius X&#8217;s great campaign for Frequent Communion does not need to be denigrated, but it is not simpliciter the whole Christian tradition.<\/p>\n<p>Back to the Eucharistic Prayer. If it is to be audible, its text should make very clear its sacrificial nature, and clergy-talk (&#8216;Today we are offering this Holy Sacrice especially for&#8217;, for example) and sermons should frequently emphasise this. Or it can be done done silently; catechesis will have no trouble explaining that it is silent because it effects the great act of consecration and sacrifice; silent becuse it effects this without essentially needing lay participation or even understanding; silent because the priest is in the holiest possible commerce with God rather than saying something for the interest, diversion, or even edification of the people. &#8230;.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fr. Hunwicke stiller dette viktige sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let i et innlegg p\u00e5 sin blogg, og sier at det kan v\u00e6re enten for kommunionen, for \u00e5 tilbe Herren som er til stede p\u00e5 alteret etter forvandlingen, eller det kan v\u00e6re pga av offeret. Og det siste er viktigst, mener han (og han har ogs\u00e5 tanker om kanonb\u00f8nna igjen [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1182"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1182\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}