{"id":11932,"date":"2017-03-19T16:34:03","date_gmt":"2017-03-19T15:34:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=11932"},"modified":"2017-03-20T17:01:21","modified_gmt":"2017-03-20T16:01:21","slug":"vatikanet-nedsetter-en-komite-til-a-se-pa-liturgiam-authenticam","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2017\/03\/vatikanet-nedsetter-en-komite-til-a-se-pa-liturgiam-authenticam\/","title":{"rendered":"Vatikanet nedsetter en komit\u00e9 til \u00e5 se p\u00e5 Liturgiam authenticam"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Den ganske liberale) liturgibloggen som jeg leser en del, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2017\/03\/16\/notes-on-the-committee-to-revise-liturgiam-authenticam\/\">Pray Tell, skriver om medlemmene av en komit\u00e9<\/a> som skal se p\u00e5 dokumentet som beskriver hvordan oversettelser av katolsk liturgi fra latin til folkespr\u00e5kene skal foreg\u00e5. Listen over medlemmer er ikke ofiisiell, men lekkasjer viser visst at dette sannsynligvis er medlemmene &#8211; de er listet opp i slutten av artikkelen.<\/p>\n<p>Pray Tell skriver her noks\u00e5 dramatisk om hva som skal (eller b\u00f8r) skje:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; Presented in a mild way, as one must, this has been described as a sort of routine review. But nobody with any sense should believe that. Since when are instructions on the right implementation of Sacrosanctum Concilium subject to routine reviews? Never. This step can only have been taken because Francis became convinced that the project is on the rocks. By that I mean that it has not been received well and a new approach has become a pastoral necessity. How much course correction is required is unclear. And how much the commission will tiptoe around the elephant in the living room, for fear of offending Benedict, is also an open question.<\/p>\n<p>One cannot emphasize too strongly however that the real task before this commission is not merely one of tweaking a few details. Liturgiam authenticam can be analyzed with respect to texts and rules of translation, but it is not only about that. It is about the nature of church, the nature of reform, and the nature of liturgy itself. That is the reason why it has aroused so much ire on the one hand, and expectations of grandeur on the other. If the review and revision confines itself to cosmetic improvements only, it will fall short of what is needed. &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Det er litt vanskelig \u00e5 forst\u00e5 at dette skal v\u00e6re s\u00e5 veldig viktig (jeg kjenner ikke til slike oversettelsesdebatter i Norge, verken av katolsk liturgi fra latin til norsk, eller norske bibeloversettelser), men i noen andre land er dette sv\u00e6rt omdiskutert &#8211; en del personer har fortsatt ikke forsonet seg med den nye (og n\u00f8yaktige) oversettelsen av hele messen til engelsk som kom i 2011. Jeg kan forsikre alle om at den norske Liturgikommisjonen (der jeg n\u00e5 er sekret\u00e6r) ikke har noen som helst problemer med Liturgiam authenticam, som ble utgitt i 2001.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Den ganske liberale) liturgibloggen som jeg leser en del, Pray Tell, skriver om medlemmene av en komit\u00e9 som skal se p\u00e5 dokumentet som beskriver hvordan oversettelser av katolsk liturgi fra latin til folkespr\u00e5kene skal foreg\u00e5. Listen over medlemmer er ikke ofiisiell, men lekkasjer viser visst at dette sannsynligvis er medlemmene &#8211; de er listet opp [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-11932","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11932","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=11932"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11932\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11937,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/11932\/revisions\/11937"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=11932"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=11932"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=11932"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}