{"id":12129,"date":"2017-06-05T22:10:46","date_gmt":"2017-06-05T20:10:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=12129"},"modified":"2017-06-08T16:11:56","modified_gmt":"2017-06-08T14:11:56","slug":"jesuittenes-general-uttrykker-tvil-om-djevelens-eksistens","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2017\/06\/jesuittenes-general-uttrykker-tvil-om-djevelens-eksistens\/","title":{"rendered":"Jesuittenes general uttrykker tvil om djevelens eksistens"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/news\/2017\/06\/01\/jesuit-superior-general-we-have-formed-symbolic-figures-such-as-the-devil-to-express-evil\/\">Catholic Herald skrev for noen dager siden<\/a>: <em>&laquo;In an interview with Spanish newspaper El Mundo, Fr Arturo Sosa said: \u201cChristians believe that we are made in the image and likeness of God, and God is free, but He always chooses to do good because He is all goodness.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have formed symbolic figures such as the devil to express evil. Social conditioning can also represent this figure, since there are people who act [in an evil way] because they are in an environment where it is difficult to act to the contrary.\u201d&raquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Men <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katolsk.no\/tro\/kkk\/k1_12#h6\">Den katolske kirkes katekisme sier<\/a> ganske tydelig:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>391. Forut for det ulydige valg v\u00e5re f\u00f8rste foreldre traff, lyder en forf\u00f8rerisk r\u00f8st som taler Gud imot,446 og som av misunnelse f\u00e5r Adam og Eva til \u00e5 kjenne d\u00f8den. Skriften og Kirkens Tradisjon ser i denne skikkelsen en fallen engel, kalt Satan eller djevelen. Kirken l\u00e6rer at han f\u00f8rst var en god engel, skapt av Gud. &laquo;Djevelen og de andre demoner ble visselig skapt naturlig gode av Gud, men de har gjort seg selv onde&raquo;.<\/p>\n<p>392. Skriften taler om at disse englene hadde syndet.450 Deres &laquo;fall&raquo; best\u00e5r i et fritt valg hos disse skapte \u00e5nder, som har sagt et grunnleggende og ugjenkallelig nei til Gud og Hans rike. Vi h\u00f8rer som en gjenklang av dette oppr\u00f8ret i fristerens ord til v\u00e5re f\u00f8rste foreldre: &laquo;Dere vil bli som Gud&raquo; (Gen 3, 5). Djevelen &laquo;har syndet fra f\u00f8rste stund av&raquo; (1 Joh 3, 8), han er &laquo;l\u00f8gnens far&raquo; (Joh 8, 44).<\/p>\n<p>393. Det er fordi englenes valg er ugjenkallelig at deres synd ikke kan tilgis, ikke p\u00e5 grunn av en mangel ved Guds uendelige miskunn. &laquo;Det finnes ingen anger for dem etter fallet, like lite som det finnes anger for mennesket etter d\u00f8den&raquo;.<\/p>\n<p>394. Skriften vitner om ond innflytelse fra ham Jesus sier har v\u00e6rt &laquo;morder fra begynnelsen av&raquo; (Joh 8, 44). Han fors\u00f8kte til og med \u00e5 f\u00e5 Jesus bort fra det oppdrag Han hadde f\u00e5tt fra sin Far.452 &laquo;Guds s\u00f8nn tr\u00e5dte frem i verden for \u00e5 \u00f8delegge djevelens verk&raquo; (1 Joh 3, 8). Det mest skjebnesvangre av disse verk var at han ved l\u00f8gn forf\u00f8rte mennesket, slik at det ble ulydig mot Gud.<\/p>\n<p>395. Satans makt er imidlertid ikke ubegrenset. Han er bare en skapning, mektig riktignok fordi han er rent \u00e5nd, men dog en skapning, og han kan ikke forhindre at Guds rike bygges opp. Selv om Satan virker i verden i hat mot Gud og Hans rike i Jesus Kristus, og til tross for at hans virke gj\u00f8r stor skade &#8211; av \u00e5ndelig art, og indirekte av fysisk art &#8211; p\u00e5 hvert menneske og p\u00e5 samfunnet, tillates allikevel dette av det guddommelige forsyn som b\u00e5de med styrke og mildhet leder menneskets og verdens historie. Dette at Gud tillater djevelen \u00e5 virke, er et stort mysterium, men &laquo;vi vet at Gud i alle ting er med og virker til det beste for dem som elsker ham&raquo; (Rom 8, 28).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/commentandblogs\/2017\/06\/02\/satan-exists-no-matter-what-the-head-of-the-jesuits-may-think\/\">Catholic Herald skriver ogs\u00e5 en annen artikkel om denne nyheten<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>OPPDATERING 8\/6.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/news\/2017\/06\/08\/spokesman-for-jesuit-chief-devil-remarks-must-be-read-in-context\/\">Catholic Herald skriver i dag<\/a> at en talsmann for Jesuittene sier:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cFather Sosa was asked to comment on the question of evil. In his response, he pointed out that evil is part of the mystery of freedom. He noted that if the human being is free, it means he can do good or evil; otherwise, he would not be free.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cHuman language uses symbols and imagery. God is love. To say God symbolizes love is not to deny the existence of God. The devil is evil. Similarly, to say the devil symbolizes evil is not to deny the existence of the devil.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The spokesman went on: \u201cLike all Catholics, Father Sosa professes and teaches what the Church professes and teaches. He does not hold a set of beliefs separate from what is contained in the doctrine of the Catholic Church.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Catholic Herald skrev for noen dager siden: &laquo;In an interview with Spanish newspaper El Mundo, Fr Arturo Sosa said: \u201cChristians believe that we are made in the image and likeness of God, and God is free, but He always chooses to do good because He is all goodness. \u201cWe have formed symbolic figures such as [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[17,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12129","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katekisme","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12129","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12129"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12129\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12134,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12129\/revisions\/12134"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12129"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12129"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12129"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}