{"id":12529,"date":"2017-12-14T13:22:11","date_gmt":"2017-12-14T11:22:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=12529"},"modified":"2017-12-14T13:22:11","modified_gmt":"2017-12-14T11:22:11","slug":"reformasjonsmarkering-i-danmark","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2017\/12\/reformasjonsmarkering-i-danmark\/","title":{"rendered":"Reformasjonsmarkering i Danmark"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I siste nummer av det danske <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katolskorientering.dk\/fileadmin\/Katolsk_Orientering\/User_oploads\/filer\/2017\/KO_17_-_lowres.pdf\">Katolsk orientering<\/a> kan vi les at  <em>&laquo;Danske Kirkers R\u00e5d satte med to velbes\u00f8gte reformationsseminarer den 1. og 2. december og en \u00f8kumenisk gudstjeneste i K\u00f8benhavns lutherske Domkirke den 3. december &#8230; punktum for reformations\u00e5ret i Danmark. Kardinal Gerhard M\u00fcller, tidligere pr\u00e6fekt for Trosl\u00e6rekongregationen, var sammen med den reformerte professor emeritus Gerd Theissen indbudt til at deltage i seminaret &#8230;&raquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Katolsk orientering hadde ogs\u00e5 et kort intervju med kardinal M\u00fcller, der han bl.a. sa:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>Hvad ser De som det st\u00f8rste fremskridt inden for den \u00f8kumeniske dialog? <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Jeg ser processen efter det f\u00e6lles romersk-katolske og lutherske dokument i 1999 om retf\u00e6rdigg\u00f8relsen som det forel\u00f8big st\u00f8rste fremskridt. Retf\u00e6rdigg\u00f8relsen sker gennem Guds n\u00e5de, som man m\u00e5 samarbejde med. <\/p>\n<p><em>Hvad er de st\u00f8rste forhindringer for enhed?<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Kirkerne er alle lemmer p\u00e5 Kristi legeme. Vi har d\u00e5ben, Bibelen og trosbekendelsen f\u00e6lles. Vi g\u00e5r p\u00e5 vejen sammen og bygger Guds rige op sammen. Men vi har betydelige forskelle i embedsforst\u00e5elsen og synet p\u00e5 sakramenterne. Biskopperne i den romerske kirke er efter katolsk opfattelse apostlenes efterf\u00f8lgere. Som den f\u00f8rste blandt biskopperne er paven et kriterium for enheden. Petrusembedet er den klippe, Kirken bygger p\u00e5. Her er vi endnu langt fra hinanden. Vi har forskellige udgangspunkter for vores kirkesyn. For os kan Kirkens enhed ikke bare best\u00e5 i en platonisk, usynlig enhed, der best\u00e5r bagom de synlige strukturer. Foruds\u00e6tningen for fuld enhed er en formulering af en f\u00e6lles trosl\u00e6re og et f\u00e6lles syn p\u00e5 sakramenterne. <\/p>\n<p><em>Hvad forhindrer os i at have f\u00e6lles kommunion? <\/em><\/p>\n<p>Jeg kan godt forst\u00e5, at vi set ud fra et evangelisk synspunkt virker ekskluderende. Hos dem kan alle d\u00f8bte jo som regel deltage i nadveren. Det er ikke muligt i Den katolske Kirke, fordi vi endnu ikke har den fulde enhed. F\u00e6llesskabet om dette sakramente er et udtryk for enhed. Men det drejer sig jo ikke bare om en f\u00f8lelsesm\u00e6ssig enhed, s\u00e5 her er der en del, der skiller os. Vores nadversyn adskiller sig v\u00e6sentligt fra hinanden. Vi tror p\u00e5 realpr\u00e6sensen, mens der fra evangelisk side ikke er tale om en v\u00e6sensforvandling af br\u00f8d og vin. For de evangeliske best\u00e5r der kun en realpr\u00e6sens \u201din uso\u201d \u2013 ved modtagelsen, sagde kardinal M\u00fcller.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I siste nummer av det danske Katolsk orientering kan vi les at &laquo;Danske Kirkers R\u00e5d satte med to velbes\u00f8gte reformationsseminarer den 1. og 2. december og en \u00f8kumenisk gudstjeneste i K\u00f8benhavns lutherske Domkirke den 3. december &#8230; punktum for reformations\u00e5ret i Danmark. Kardinal Gerhard M\u00fcller, tidligere pr\u00e6fekt for Trosl\u00e6rekongregationen, var sammen med den reformerte professor [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12529","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12529","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=12529"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12529\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12530,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12529\/revisions\/12530"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=12529"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=12529"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=12529"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}