{"id":126,"date":"2010-05-06T18:59:42","date_gmt":"2010-05-06T16:59:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=126"},"modified":"2010-07-09T11:00:34","modified_gmt":"2010-07-09T09:00:34","slug":"anglikanere-pa-vei-til-moderkirken-hemmelig-mote-i-vatikanet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/05\/anglikanere-pa-vei-til-moderkirken-hemmelig-mote-i-vatikanet\/","title":{"rendered":"Anglikanere p\u00e5 vei til Moderkirken &#8211; hemmelig m\u00f8te i Vatikanet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ting tar tid, viser det seg ofte, og etter at pave Benedikt <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/2060\">20. oktober i fjor<\/a> annonserte at anglikanere n\u00e5 f\u00e5r muligheten til \u00e5 konvertere i st\u00f8rre mengder, og mer som grupper enn enkeltindivider, og at de f\u00e5r ta med seg noe av sin liturgiske tradisjon, begynner det n\u00e5 ganske langsomt \u00e5 skje noe. P\u00e5 den annen side er det her mye som skal legges til rette, s\u00e5 man skulle kanskje ikke regne med at ting skjer s\u00e5 fort. (Selv om jeg ofte griper meg selv i \u00e5 tenke at disse biskopene, prestene, og lekfolkene, etter alle disse \u00e5rene snart m\u00e5 klare \u00e5 bestemme seg.)<\/p>\n<p>Det viser seg n\u00e5 at sist l\u00f8rdag var tre konservative anglikanske biskoper fra England p\u00e5 (hemmelig) bes\u00f8k i Vatikanet, for \u00e5 se videre p\u00e5 hvordan denne overgangsprosessen kan bli &#8211; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/religion\/7664705\/Anglican-bishops-in-secret-Vatican-summit.html\">les om m\u00f8tet<\/a> i The Telegraph.<\/p>\n<p>Det viser seg n\u00e5 at det var sv\u00e6rt uheldig at dette m\u00f8tet ble kjent, og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.forwardinfaith.com\/artman\/publish\/article_505.shtml\">slik skriver<\/a> den anglikanske biskopen John Fulham (som mange ganger har v\u00e6rt i Norge):<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">I feel as your Chairman that I should say something about the reported trip to Rome.  As you all know, I am interested in the Ordinariate.  I had the opportunity to accompany Bishop Andrew and Bishop Keith to the Vatican to discover what was intended.  As Chairman of Forward in Faith International it was important that I was present, as FIF Australia is totally committed to it. Also many members in America and here are actively interested.  I can say nothing more about the visit. <\/p>\n<p>However, I am embarrassed by the leak to the press that we had visited the Holy See. All of us have expressed an interest in the Ordinariate and so it is obviously necessary to understand exactly what is intended and how the Ordinariate will be implemented. We were certainly neither negotiating nor plotting. The leak came as a real surprise to me as it happened whilst I was abroad. As we had not informed others of our visit, who leaked it &#8211; and why &#8211; is a very serious question. It risks damage to the Church of England, and to Catholic Anglicans in particular, as well as to the forthcoming visit to the UK of the Holy Father. It also has serious ecumenical implications. To say it was malicious would seem to fit the facts. &#8230;<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ting tar tid, viser det seg ofte, og etter at pave Benedikt 20. oktober i fjor annonserte at anglikanere n\u00e5 f\u00e5r muligheten til \u00e5 konvertere i st\u00f8rre mengder, og mer som grupper enn enkeltindivider, og at de f\u00e5r ta med seg noe av sin liturgiske tradisjon, begynner det n\u00e5 ganske langsomt \u00e5 skje noe. P\u00e5 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-126","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=126"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/126\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=126"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=126"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=126"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}