{"id":12616,"date":"2018-03-15T15:41:57","date_gmt":"2018-03-15T13:41:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=12616"},"modified":"2018-03-15T15:41:57","modified_gmt":"2018-03-15T13:41:57","slug":"den-okumeniske-veien-er-blitt-atskillig-mye-mer-humpete","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2018\/03\/den-okumeniske-veien-er-blitt-atskillig-mye-mer-humpete\/","title":{"rendered":"Den \u00f8kumeniske veien er blitt atskillig mye mer humpete"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ei slik overskrift (over) ga V\u00e5rt Land intervjuet med redakt\u00f8r i Dagen, Vebj\u00f8rn Selbekk, i g\u00e5rsdagens intervju, der ham bl.a. snakket sv\u00e6rt varmt om pave Benedikts b\u00f8ker om Jesus. Men om Ulf Ekmans konversjon i 2014 skriver alts\u00e5 Selbekk s\u00e5 pass dramatiske ting som:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I 2014 skjedde det noe dramatisk for oss i de karismatiske milj\u00f8ene: En stor \u00abstjerne\u00bb i v\u00e5rt milj\u00f8, Ulf Ekman, konverterte til Den katolske kirke. Det var et jordskjelv, b\u00e5de for meg og andre. Det satte det \u00f8kumeniske arbeidet mange, mange \u00e5r tilbake. I hvert fall p\u00e5 den karismatiske siden, det ble plutselig veldig vanskelig \u00e5 la seg berike av katolsk trosliv mer. For ting hadde v\u00e6rt p\u00e5 glid.<\/p>\n<p>Dette tvang jo folk p\u00e5 evangelisk side \u2013 og da snakker jeg mest om den pinsekarismatiske delen av det \u2013 til \u00e5 lete etter argumenter for hvorfor vi er evangelisk, troende protestanter. Klimaet f\u00f8r Ekmans konvertering var preget av \u00e5 peke p\u00e5 det som forener oss, mens Ekmans konvertering fikk de samme milj\u00f8ene til \u00e5 begynne \u00e5 legge vekt p\u00e5 det som skiller. Jeg, personlig, trodde at Ulf i de 15 \u00e5rene han hadde \u00abarbeidet\u00bb med Den katolske kirke i kroppen, hadde bredt ut sitt teologiske syn \u2013 at han oppriktig \u00f8nsket \u00e5 l\u00e6re av andre kristne tradisjoner, de klassiske, og se verdien i dem. Mange tenkte nok \u2013 \u00abOK, er det her vegen slutter? Er m\u00e5let \u00e5 bli katolikk?\u00bb Det skremte mange. For \u00e5 si det slik: Den \u00f8kumenske veien er blitt atskillig mer humpete etter dette. Det er trist. For kristenheten er stor, og troserfaringen og trosskattene tilh\u00f8rer oss alle sammen.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ei slik overskrift (over) ga V\u00e5rt Land intervjuet med redakt\u00f8r i Dagen, Vebj\u00f8rn Selbekk, i g\u00e5rsdagens intervju, der ham bl.a. snakket sv\u00e6rt varmt om pave Benedikts b\u00f8ker om Jesus. 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