{"id":1277,"date":"2011-04-25T14:50:43","date_gmt":"2011-04-25T12:50:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1277"},"modified":"2011-04-25T14:50:54","modified_gmt":"2011-04-25T12:50:54","slug":"fra-bloggen-pray-tell-lutherske-rotter-kritikk-av-paven","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/04\/fra-bloggen-pray-tell-lutherske-rotter-kritikk-av-paven\/","title":{"rendered":"Fra bloggen &laquo;Pray Tell&raquo; &#8211; Lutherske r\u00f8tter, kritikk av paven"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I dag tidlig leste jeg litt mer p\u00e5 &laquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\">Pray Tell<\/a>&raquo; bloggen &#8211; jeg leser den bl.a. for \u00e5 f\u00e5 en kontrast de mer konservative nettstedene jeg ogs\u00e5 bes\u00f8ker, og det er noen dyktige folk som skriver om liturgi der. En benediktiner med sv\u00e6rt norske (+svenske og tyske) aner <a href=\"http:\/\/www.praytellblog.com\/index.php\/2011\/04\/13\/lutheran-catholic-and-monastic-pathways-to-christ\/\">forteller om sin oppvekst<\/a>, og svarer p\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om sin konversjon fra luthersk til katolsk tro:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When people hear that I was raised Lutheran, they sometimes become curious and ask three questions: 1) From which Lutheran synod? 2) When did you convert? and 3) Why?<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll attempt to formulate my thoughts here in response to these recurring questions in hopes that this exercise might help me to reflect on my personal religious wanderings while also creating a means for sharing these thoughts.<\/p>\n<p>My home parish, <strong>Vinje Lutheran Church in Willmar, Minnesota<\/strong>, was originally part of the Synoden for den Norsk Evangelisk Lutherske Kirke i America (the Norwegian ethnic synod which was affiliated with the state church in Norway). Today, Vinje is part of the larger ELCA. My grandfather (mother\u2019s father) was a pastor of the Synoden and preached in both Norwegian and English. I also have an uncle who is an ELCA pastor, and my mother\u2019s cousin is a retired ELCA bishop. On my father\u2019s side, my grandmother was Augustana Synod (the Swedish ethnic church which is now ELCA), and my grandfather was baptized and confirmed Missouri Synod (German ethnic). However, my dad was raised in the Norwegian church because my Swedish grandmother and German grandfather joined a Norwegian congregation.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Det er nesten utrolig det g\u00e5r an \u00e5 ha en s\u00e5 norsk oppvekst i USA! Han g\u00e5r s\u00e5 videre og forteller hvorfor han konverte (et ord han absolutt ikke liker \u00e5 bruke) til Den katolske Kirke &#8211; det ser ut til \u00e5 v\u00e6re mest musikken som gjorde det.<\/p>\n<p>I kommentarene til dette innlegget, er det en helt ting, ogs\u00e5 den kirkekritikken som er typsik for denne bloggen:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; It appears that the forthcoming Assisi interfaith gathering on the 25th anniversary of the original event will be a repudiation by Pope Ratzinger of the earlier event. Not only will the interfaith prayer aspect disappear, but the ecumenical dimension will also be removed. Instead Benedict XVI will pray in St Peter\u2019s the night before with the catholic faithful. And other christian churches are invited to do something similar. The image of filletting comes to mind. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; I agree. Why even bother with Assisi. Better to call it off than to treat it so ungenerously and with such a legalistic attitude. Pope Benedict appears to be genuflecting again to the neo Ultramontanist harpies and the SSPX crowd. &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I dag tidlig leste jeg litt mer p\u00e5 &laquo;Pray Tell&raquo; bloggen &#8211; jeg leser den bl.a. for \u00e5 f\u00e5 en kontrast de mer konservative nettstedene jeg ogs\u00e5 bes\u00f8ker, og det er noen dyktige folk som skriver om liturgi der. En benediktiner med sv\u00e6rt norske (+svenske og tyske) aner forteller om sin oppvekst, og svarer p\u00e5 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1277","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1277","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1277"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1277\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1277"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1277"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1277"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}