{"id":1363,"date":"2011-05-17T10:44:08","date_gmt":"2011-05-17T08:44:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1363"},"modified":"2011-05-17T10:44:08","modified_gmt":"2011-05-17T08:44:08","slug":"a-avsta-fra-kjott-pa-fredager-har-mest-med-identitet-og-lydighet-a-gj%c3%b8re","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/05\/a-avsta-fra-kjott-pa-fredager-har-mest-med-identitet-og-lydighet-a-gj%c3%b8re\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c5 avst\u00e5 fra kj\u00f8tt p\u00e5 fredager har mest med identitet og lydighet \u00e5 gj\u00f8re"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>William Oddie skriver om den engelske bispekonferansens vedtak om \u00e5 innf\u00f8re obligatorisk abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hver fredag p\u00e5 en litt annen m\u00e5te enn flere av oss sannsynligvis hadde tenkt. Han oppsummerer <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/commentandblogs\/2011\/05\/16\/the-restoration-of-the-friday-fast-is-a-historic-day-for-english-and-welsh-catholics\/\">et stykke i the Catholic Herald <\/a>slik: <em>&laquo;In the end, it\u2019s obedience, not personal choice, that holds us together as a people.&raquo;<\/em> Og han skriver bl.a.:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> I do not often find myself moved by actual enthusiasm for official utterances emerging from meetings of the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales. Now I do. A statement they issued on Saturday is not only wonderfully brief (around 400 words), it is written in a powerfully devotional style. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; The point, of course, is not simply that we abstain from meat on Friday (if we do) as a personal devotion: it is that we once did it, and soon will once more, out of obedience to the authority of the Church: it was once, and, deo gratias, will be again, a constant reminder that once we have taken the initial choice of committing ourselves to being Catholics in the first place, we are under obedience; and that it is that obedience that holds us together as a people.<\/p>\n<p>The Church used to make this clear beyond peradventure: a convert was said to \u201csubmit\u201d to the authority of the Holy See. This usage was thought, in the heyday of the \u201cSpirit of Vatican II\u201d, unduly forbidding and was quietly dropped in favour of the less daunting usage to \u201ccome into full communion\u201d with the Holy See. But downplaying the idea of obedience has had damaging effects on the collective mind of the faithful. &#8230; <\/p>\n<p>&#8230; nothing stops us from abstaining from meat on a Friday as things stand now. In our household we do already: but the point is that we do it as a private rule of life rather than as an expression of the fact that we are part of the daily life of the Church. We used to do it, in fact, even when we were Catholic-minded Anglicans: that, too, was just a personal devotion. As such, it was a kind of nostalgic tribute to an order within the Church which seemed to have passed away for ever. As I wrote last year, \u201cIt would be wonderful if our bishops now actually said, in terms, that the old tradition is now restored by their authority, and formally pronounced that we ought not to eat meat on a Friday without good reason\u201d. Now they have &#8230; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>William Oddie skriver om den engelske bispekonferansens vedtak om \u00e5 innf\u00f8re obligatorisk abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hver fredag p\u00e5 en litt annen m\u00e5te enn flere av oss sannsynligvis hadde tenkt. Han oppsummerer et stykke i the Catholic Herald slik: &laquo;In the end, it\u2019s obedience, not personal choice, that holds us together as a people.&raquo; Og han [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1363","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1363","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1363"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1363\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1363"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1363"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1363"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}