{"id":1364,"date":"2011-05-19T08:51:19","date_gmt":"2011-05-19T06:51:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1364"},"modified":"2011-05-19T09:44:44","modified_gmt":"2011-05-19T07:44:44","slug":"enda-litt-mer-om-fredagsbot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/05\/enda-litt-mer-om-fredagsbot\/","title":{"rendered":"Enda litt mer om fredagsbot"},"content":{"rendered":"

Det har v\u00e6rt en overraskende stor debatt her p\u00e5 bloggen<\/a> etter at jeg meldte om nyheten fra England; at obligatorisk abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hver fredag hele \u00e5ret gjeninnf\u00f8res for alle katolikker i England i september i \u00e5r. (Se biskopenes vedtak her<\/a>.)<\/p>\n

F\u00f8rst skriver biskopene hva Kirkens universelle lov sier – etter at pave Paul VI i februar 1966 opphevet det tidligere forbudet mot \u00e5 spise kj\u00f8tt alle fredager hele \u00e5ret – inkl. bispekonferansenes mulighet til \u00e5 lage egne regler:<\/p>\n

Every Friday is set aside by the Church as a special day of penance, for it is the day of the death of our Lord. The law of the Church requires Catholics to abstain from meat on Fridays, or some other form of food, or to observe some other form of penance laid down by the Bishops’ Conference.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I tillegg til \u00e5 gj\u00f8re fredagsboten tydeligere, og lettere \u00e5 gjennomf\u00f8re for alle, vil ogs\u00e5 felles abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hjelpe til med \u00e5 bygge opp en felles katolsk identitet:<\/p>\n

The Bishops wish to re-establish the practice of Friday penance in the lives of the faithful as a clear and distinctive mark of their own Catholic identity. They recognise that the best habits are those which are acquired as part of a common resolve and common witness. It is important that all the faithful be united in a common celebration of Friday penance.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

S\u00e5 kommer selve vedtaket:<\/p>\n

Respectful of this, and in accordance with the mind of the whole Church, the Bishops’ Conference wishes to remind all Catholics in England and Wales of the obligation of Friday Penance. The Bishops have decided to re-establish the practice that this should be fulfilled by abstaining from meat. …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Biskopene fortsetter med \u00e5 si at de troende gjerne m\u00e5 gj\u00f8re mer enn dette, og da kan de selvsagt selv velge m\u00e5ten de vil gj\u00f8re det p\u00e5. (S\u00e5 langt jeg kjenner til, vedtok de amerikanske biskopene allerede i 1966 at det skulle v\u00e6re obligatorisk abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hver fredag i fastetiden i USA, og den regelen har de h\u00e5ndhevet ganske strengt i alle \u00e5r siden. England og Wales har tidligere ikke hatt slike regler – jeg husker selv hvor sjokkert jeg ble da jeg ble servert kj\u00f8tt flere fredager i fastetiden p\u00e5 presteseminaret i London. Jeg kjenenr ikke til egne regler for andre land p\u00e5 dette omr\u00e5det.)<\/p>\n

Til slutt om reglene for Norden; som selvsagt f\u00f8lger de universelle reglene, men som ogs\u00e5 overrasker n\u00e5r de definerer abstinens s\u00e5 \u00e5pent som de gj\u00f8r: «Abstinens betyr som oftest \u00e5 avst\u00e5 fra kj\u00f8tt, men Den nordiske bispekonferansen er litt vagere i sine regler: Det \u00e5 faste betyr en merkbar reduksjon av det man spiser til daglig. Abstinens vil si at vi gir avkall p\u00e5 en spesiell form for mat, drikke eller forn\u00f8yelse.»<\/em> (Et stykke nede p\u00e5 denne siden<\/a>.) Denne setningen m\u00e5 bety at man ogs\u00e5 askeonsdag og langfredag kan spise kj\u00f8tt, og heller avst\u00e5 fra noe annet.<\/p>\n

Slik er dette spesifisert for Oslo Katolske Bisped\u00f8mme for fasten 2011<\/a>: «… Jeg gj\u00f8r ogs\u00e5 oppmerksom p\u00e5 at askeonsdag og langfredag er faste- og abstinensdager. Som de nordiske biskopene har forklart, betyr faste p\u00e5 disse dagene \u00aben merkbar reduksjon av det man spiser til daglig\u00bb, mens abstinens disse dagene inneb\u00e6rer at vi \u00abgir avkall p\u00e5 en spesiell form for mat, drikke eller forn\u00f8yelse\u00bb. …»<\/em> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Det har v\u00e6rt en overraskende stor debatt her p\u00e5 bloggen etter at jeg meldte om nyheten fra England; at obligatorisk abstinens fra kj\u00f8tt hver fredag hele \u00e5ret gjeninnf\u00f8res for alle katolikker i England i september i \u00e5r. (Se biskopenes vedtak her.) F\u00f8rst skriver biskopene hva Kirkens universelle lov sier – etter at pave Paul VI […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1364","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1364","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1364"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1364\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1365,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1364\/revisions\/1365"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1364"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1364"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1364"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}