{"id":13732,"date":"2020-04-12T13:52:54","date_gmt":"2020-04-12T12:52:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=13732"},"modified":"2020-04-12T13:57:02","modified_gmt":"2020-04-12T12:57:02","slug":"paskevigiliens-liturgi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2020\/04\/paskevigiliens-liturgi\/","title":{"rendered":"P\u00e5skevigiliens liturgi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg fikk i dag et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l fra en leser ang\u00e5ende p\u00e5skevigiliens liturgi: <em>&laquo;I\u00e5r fulgte jeg triduum p\u00e5 to nettsteder: FSSP fra Fribourg og SSPX fra Zaitkofen, og ble forundret over at mens man i SSPX fulgte Pius XIIs \u201cnye\u201d litugi for p\u00e5skenatt, feiret man i FSSP den gamle fra f\u00f8r 1955. Vet moderator noe om bakgrunnen herfor? Lesningene i den eldste variant tok fryktelig lang tid, s\u00e5 i pedagogisk henseende m\u00e5 den \u201cnye\u201d v\u00e6re mye bedre egnet i en sognekirke \u2013 men hvilken er den den historisk sett mest \u201ckorrekte\u201d?&raquo;<\/em> <\/p>\n<p>Jeg kan gi to korte svar p\u00e5 dette sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let: 1) Det opprinnelige tidspunktet for \u00e5 feire p\u00e5skevigilien var utvilsom kvelden\/natten f\u00f8r p\u00e5skedag, og s\u00e5 ble dette gradvis flyttet til l\u00f8rdag formiddag &#8211; den ble feiret s\u00e5 tidlig i flere hundre \u00e5r f\u00f8r 1955. (Liturgien var ogs\u00e5 s\u00e5 lang at det i liten grad passet for hele menigheten, som det blir p\u00e5pekt.) <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/cathen\/07424a.htm\">Catholic Encyclopedia skriver <\/a>om dette, bl.a.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In the primitive Church Holy Saturday was known as Great, or Grand, Saturday, Holy Saturday, the Angelic Night, the Vigil of Easter, etc. It is no longer, like Maundy Thursday, a day of joy, but one of joy and sadness intermingled; it is the close of the season of Lent and penance, and the beginning of paschal time, which is one of rejoicing.<\/p>\n<p>By a noteworthy exception, in the early Church this was the only Saturday on which fasting was permitted (Constit. Apost., VII, 23), and the fast was one of special severity. Dating from the time of St. Irenaeus, an absolute fast from every kind of food was observed for the forty hours preceding the feast of Easter, and although the moment assigned for breaking the fast at dawn on Sunday varied according to time and country, the abstinence from food on Holy Saturday was general.<\/p>\n<p>The night of the vigil of Easter has undergone a strange displacement. During the first six or seven centuries, ceremonies were in progress throughout the entire night, so that the Alleluia coincided with the day and moment of the Resurrection. In the eighth century these same ceremonies were held on Saturday afternoon and, by a singular anachronism, were later on conducted on Saturday morning, thus the time for carrying out the solemnity was advanced almost a whole day. Thanks to this change, special services were now assigned to Holy Saturday whereas, beforehand, it had had none until the late hour of the vigil.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>2) Om innholdet i p\u00e5skevigilien fra 1955 eller 1969 er s\u00e6rlig opprinnelig er et annet sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l; sannsynligvis er den ikke det, den er vel heller et uttrykk for den liturgiske bevegelses arkeologisme (reformen i 1955 er f\u00f8rste eksempel p\u00e5 dette).<\/p>\n<p>New Liturgical Movedment har flere artikler om hvordan p\u00e5skevigilien ble gjennomf\u00f8rt f\u00f8r reformen i 1955; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newliturgicalmovement.org\/2009\/04\/compendium-of-1955-holy-week-revisions_09.html\">se nr. 1 HER<\/a> og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newliturgicalmovement.org\/2009\/04\/compendium-of-1955-holy-week-revisions_11.html\">nr. 2 HER<\/a>, skrevet av Gregory DiPippo.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/onepeterfive.com\/experience-pre-1955-liturgy\/\">Peter Kwasniewski har skrevet om sitt f\u00f8rste m\u00f8te med den stille ukes gamle [f\u00f8r 1955] seremonier<\/a> (i 2019) og han oppsummerer sin opplevelse av p\u00e5skevigilien slik:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/EV5-Renewed-sacrifice.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/EV5-Renewed-sacrifice-700x466.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"695\" height=\"463\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-13733\" srcset=\"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/EV5-Renewed-sacrifice-700x466.jpg 700w, https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/EV5-Renewed-sacrifice-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/EV5-Renewed-sacrifice.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 695px) 100vw, 695px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The whole Vigil liturgy \u2014 one vast hymn of praise to the might of God revealed in the creation of the world, the creation of the old Israel, and the creation of the new Israel \u2014 possessed a cosmic sweep, a historical rootedness, and an immersion into mystery that I have never seen before, in a seamless interconnection that had none of those embarrassing modular joints or ceremonial caesuras typical of the work of Vatican committees from 1948 onward.<\/p>\n<p>There is no doubt in my mind that the pre-1955 Easter Vigil is the crown jewel of the Tridentine rite and that we must do everything we can to recover it. I am also, again as with Palm Sunday, speechless that any reformers could dare to take away something like this.<\/p>\n<p>A priest who has celebrated both forms of Holy Week (the pre-\u201955 and the \u201955) told me recently: \u201cThe old liturgical rites drive home the integral and essential connection between the sacrifice of the Cross and the Eucharistic sacrifice. The new [Pacellian] versions systematically downplay this. The old liturgies are coherent in what they contain and when they present it; the new versions are piecemeal and chaotic. In fact, some of the same people who worked on the \u2018renewed\u2019 Holy Week later worked on the Novus Ordo, and when they got around to fixing some of the problems they themselves had introduced, they blamed the problems not on their bungling of the work, but on the \u2018old liturgy\u2019! How\u2019s that for mendacious?\u201d &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>3) Til slutt kan jeg ikke si noe annet om hvorfor SSPX brukte 1962-liturgien og FSSP brukte liturgien fra f\u00f8r 1955, enn at det i de aller siste \u00e5rene gradvis har vokst frem en interesse for liturgien f\u00f8r 1962 &#8211; og den stille ukes liturgi var egentlig det eneste som hadde blitt reformert f\u00f8r 1962. <strong>Kanskje  andre kan svare bedre p\u00e5 dette sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let?<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg fikk i dag et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l fra en leser ang\u00e5ende p\u00e5skevigiliens liturgi: &laquo;I\u00e5r fulgte jeg triduum p\u00e5 to nettsteder: FSSP fra Fribourg og SSPX fra Zaitkofen, og ble forundret over at mens man i SSPX fulgte Pius XIIs \u201cnye\u201d litugi for p\u00e5skenatt, feiret man i FSSP den gamle fra f\u00f8r 1955. 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