{"id":1416,"date":"2011-06-02T13:41:41","date_gmt":"2011-06-02T11:41:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1416"},"modified":"2011-06-02T14:01:56","modified_gmt":"2011-06-02T12:01:56","slug":"godt-hyrdebrev-av-de-engelske-katolske-biskopene","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/06\/godt-hyrdebrev-av-de-engelske-katolske-biskopene\/","title":{"rendered":"Godt hyrdebrev av de engelske, katolske biskopene"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/bilder\/engl_bisk_pave.jpg\" alt=\"\" title=\"engl_bisk_pave\" width=\"440\" height=\"290\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1417\" \/> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicherald.co.uk\/commentandblogs\/2011\/06\/01\/the-bishops%E2%80%99-pastoral-letter-on-the-new-mass-translation-represents-a-revolution-in-their-thinking\/\">William Oddie likte sv\u00e6rt godt<\/a> det hyrdebrevet de engelske, katolske biskopene lot les i alle kirker nylig: <em>&laquo;The most remarkable thing of all, perhaps, apart from the fact that it was from all the bishops, not just our own diocesan, was that it held the attention from beginning to end. It said something real: there wasn\u2019t a platitude in it. It was short (some pastoral letters do drone on a bit) and it was very important indeed.&raquo;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Brevet handlet mest om den nye engelske oversettelsen av messen &#8211; innf\u00f8ringen av denne over hele verden i l\u00f8pet av neste halv\u00e5r er virkelig en revolusjon. Oddie mener det er bemerkeslesverdig at biskopene innr\u00f8mmer feilene ved den gamle oversettelsen s\u00e5 tydelig som de n\u00e5 gj\u00f8r:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; The bishops are saying that the \u201cstyle of language and expression\u201d of the Mass we now have doesn\u2019t itself draw us into the transcendent and divine. That\u2019s not to say that during Mass we aren\u2019t so drawn: but that\u2019s because, for all its failings, the Novus Ordo in English is still a valid Mass; we know that and so can be drawn into its reality, the reality that because of the celebration we are attending we will truly receive Christ\u2019s Body and Precious Blood.<\/p>\n<p>But the language that contains this reality has not been worthy of it. And there has been a very good reason for that: its intention was precisely not to draw us into the transcendent and the divine. Why? Because the underlying intention of the translators was deeply corrupted &#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Oddie nevner ogs\u00e5 andre feil ved den tidligere oversettelsen:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8230; These texts, as Fr (now Mgr) Bruce Harbert put it, \u201crepeatedly overestimate the value of human effort and undervalue the role of divine grace in human life, &#8230; (the) .. tendency in the old translation was in its inclination to remove any sign of humility before God. \u201cLord\u201d, wherever possible was suppressed, often replaced by \u201cFather\u201d. Any note of supplication tended to be downplayed; all this, Mgr Harbert said \u2013 in an article for the Catholic Herald I asked him to write, years before work began on the new translation, as it turned out under his supervision (Deo Gratias!) \u2013 would have to be reversed. He gave as an example \u201cthe somewhat peremptory words \u2018And so, Father, we bring you these gifts. We ask you to make them holy by the power of your spirit\u2019.\u2019\u201d In the new translation this appears as \u201cTherefore, O Lord, we humbly implore you: by the same Spirit graciously make holy these gifts we have brought to you for consecration\u201d. The old immanentist cockiness has been extirpated; humility before a transcendent God has been restored.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>William Oddie likte sv\u00e6rt godt det hyrdebrevet de engelske, katolske biskopene lot les i alle kirker nylig: &laquo;The most remarkable thing of all, perhaps, apart from the fact that it was from all the bishops, not just our own diocesan, was that it held the attention from beginning to end. It said something real: there [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1416","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1416","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1416"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1416\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1418,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1416\/revisions\/1418"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1416"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1416"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1416"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}