{"id":1453,"date":"2011-06-15T18:16:34","date_gmt":"2011-06-15T16:16:34","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1453"},"modified":"2011-06-15T18:16:34","modified_gmt":"2011-06-15T16:16:34","slug":"liturgieksperter-pa-20-40-og-60-tallet-tok-feil","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/06\/liturgieksperter-pa-20-40-og-60-tallet-tok-feil\/","title":{"rendered":"Liturgieksperter p\u00e5 20-, 40- og 60-tallet tok feil"},"content":{"rendered":"

N\u00e5 som den engelskspr\u00e5klige verden skal f\u00e5 en ny oversettelse av messen, skriver de mye om liturgiske sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l. Her er en artikkel med ganske friske fraspark<\/a> (som ogs\u00e5 ang\u00e5r oss i Norge som ikke skal f\u00e5 noen ny oversettelse – den norske er sv\u00e6rt mye bedre enn den ensgelske som n\u00e5 har v\u00e6rt brukt i 40 \u00e5r):<\/p>\n

Five Myths About Worship in the Early Church <\/strong>– by Michael P. Foley<\/p>\n

As the forthcoming new translation of the Roman Missal debunks the myth that liturgical language must be so banal that even the muppets on Sesame Street can understand it, it\u2019s a good time to examine five other untruths that have been wreaking havoc on the Church\u2019s worship in recent decades.<\/p>\n

1. Mass facing the people. <\/strong>After studying free-standing altars in early churches, liturgists in the 1930s concluded that priests once celebrated Mass \u201cfacing the people,\u201d and that it was only under the influence of decadent medieval clericalism that they \u201cturned their backs\u201d to them. This myth was much in the drinking water at the time of Vatican II (1962-1965). Later, some scholars began to reexamine the evidence and found that it did not support their thesis at all, and that in fact there had been an unbroken tradition \u2014 both East and West \u2014 of priest and congregation celebrating the Eucharist in the same direction: eastward.<\/p>\n

Pope Benedict XVI, who endorsed the most recent book refuting the versus populum error, has been trying to make the facts of the case better known. But in the past generation, millions of dollars have been spent destroying exquisite high altars and replacing them with altar-tables, all in conformity to \u201cthe practice of the early Church.\u201d Would that this myth were busted earlier.<\/p>\n

2. Communion in the hand and under both kinds.<\/strong> Myths about Holy Communion follow a similar pattern. Fifty years ago, the claim that \u201cCommunion in the hand\u201d was the universal practice of the early Church was believed by everyone, even by those who didn\u2019t wish to see the practice resuscitated. Now we\u2019re not so sure. What we can say is that some early Christian communities practiced Communion in the hand, but Communion on the tongue may be just as ancient. And when Communion in the hand was practiced, the communicant received from a priest (and only a priest), most likely by putting It in his mouth without his other hand touching it. And in some places, a woman\u2019s hand had to be covered with a white cloth!<\/p>\n

We are more certain that the Roman Church once administered Holy Communion under both species (just as the Eastern churches have always done), but we don\u2019t know exactly how. … In other words, Holy Communion was probably not administered in the fast-food manner we have today, with a \u201cgrab-and-go\u201d system of multiple efficient lines that move from one station to the other, and the communicant touching the Host or Precious Cup with his own hands. Our current arrangement may have more in common with the Protestant than the patristic. Significantly, Benedict XVI, a careful student of the Church Fathers, no longer administers Communion in the hand. …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

N\u00e5 som den engelskspr\u00e5klige verden skal f\u00e5 en ny oversettelse av messen, skriver de mye om liturgiske sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l. Her er en artikkel med ganske friske fraspark (som ogs\u00e5 ang\u00e5r oss i Norge som ikke skal f\u00e5 noen ny oversettelse – den norske er sv\u00e6rt mye bedre enn den ensgelske som n\u00e5 har v\u00e6rt brukt i […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1453","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1453","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1453"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1453\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1453"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1453"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1453"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}