{"id":146,"date":"2010-05-24T11:36:14","date_gmt":"2010-05-24T09:36:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=146"},"modified":"2010-07-09T11:36:53","modified_gmt":"2010-07-09T09:36:53","slug":"pinseoktaven-ble-borte-men-ogsa-gode-liturgiske-nyheter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/05\/pinseoktaven-ble-borte-men-ogsa-gode-liturgiske-nyheter\/","title":{"rendered":"Pinseoktaven ble borte &#8211; men ogs\u00e5 gode liturgiske nyheter"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har nettopp lest mange kommentarer til <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2010\/05\/a-pentecost-monday-lesson-and-paul-vi-wept\/\">et blog-innlegg<\/a> om at pave Pail VI i 1970 angret p\u00e5 at han hadde tatt bort pinseoktaven. Den ble til 1969 feiret hver dag til og med l\u00f8rdag akkurat som selveste pinsedagen &#8211; som vi fortsatt gj\u00f8r i p\u00e5skeoktaven. Jeg har stadig vanskeligere for \u00e5 forst\u00e5 at alle forandringene som kom i liturgien i 1969 p\u00e5 noen m\u00e5te skulle v\u00e6re n\u00f8dvendige. (Men denne uka skal jeg feire to private TLMer, s\u00e5 da f\u00e5r jeg jo oppleve pinseoktaven i alle fall de to dagene.)<\/p>\n<p>Av de mange kommentarene til det nevnte blog-innlegget, er det \u00e9n som uthever seg; ved \u00e5 v\u00e6re positiv og konstruktiv, og ved \u00e5 vise hva som virkelig skjer av liturgiforandringer mange steder i Kirken:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">Our Sunday EF Missa Cantata is in an old traditional looking church with its original high altar. The early morning low Mass is a \u201cprivate\u201d daily Mass just started in a typical modern in-the-round-church.<\/p>\n<p>A half dozen years ago, our diocese probably had not seen a TLM in 35 years, and the current situation \u2013 with a half dozen priests who celebrate the TLM, all but one ordained in the last 10 years \u2013 would have seemed impossible to imagine.<\/p>\n<p>Ditto (and perhaps more significantly) with the most recent daily OF Mass I attended last week. The celebrant processed in wearing a beautiful Roman chasuble carrying chalice in veil topped with burse, preceded by a single adult male server in surplice and cassock. No singing, the congregation reciting the day\u2019s Introit. Not a single extemporaneous word preceding the Sign of the Cross (nor anywhere else in the Mass). Straight to the Confiteor, then the Kyrie in Greek after the Absolution. Silent Offertory with the priest visibly whispering his prayers, quietly recited Roman Canon with no saints nor any of the half dozen optional Through Christ Our Lord\u2019s omitted. The Sanctus, Per ipsum \u2026.. per omnia saecula saeculorum, and Agnus Dei in Latin, no hands held or handshakes anywhere, most everyone receiving HC on the tongue, prayer to St. Michael at the end of Mass and \u201cMost sacred heart of Jesus, Have mercy on us\u201d (thrice) as the celebrant and server processed out in silence.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, the other side of the coin is visible hereabouts to those who want it (as many do). But I never see it myself, because I stay away from bad liturgical news, and hence account only the good.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har nettopp lest mange kommentarer til et blog-innlegg om at pave Pail VI i 1970 angret p\u00e5 at han hadde tatt bort pinseoktaven. Den ble til 1969 feiret hver dag til og med l\u00f8rdag akkurat som selveste pinsedagen &#8211; som vi fortsatt gj\u00f8r i p\u00e5skeoktaven. Jeg har stadig vanskeligere for \u00e5 forst\u00e5 at alle [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-146","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/146","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=146"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/146\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=146"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=146"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=146"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}