{"id":1504,"date":"2011-07-04T21:25:31","date_gmt":"2011-07-04T19:25:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1504"},"modified":"2015-06-02T00:10:15","modified_gmt":"2015-06-01T22:10:15","slug":"kommunionsbenkene-er-pa-vei-tilbake-eller-er-de-det","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/07\/kommunionsbenkene-er-pa-vei-tilbake-eller-er-de-det\/","title":{"rendered":"Kommunionsbenkene er p\u00e5 vei tilbake – eller er de det?"},"content":{"rendered":"

De er tre ting i m\u00e5ten messene oftest feires p\u00e5 i v\u00e5r tid som gir lite mening for meg; at man oftest ikke bruker et tradisjonelt alter, men et bord vendt mot folket, at folk mottar kommunion i h\u00e5nden, og at folk st\u00e5r n\u00e5r de mottar kommunion, isteden for \u00e5 knele p\u00e5 kommunionsbenken. Disse forandringene ble ikke gjort av Vatikankonsilet, heller ikke av kommisjonen som forandret messen etter konsilet – det ble visst bare slik.<\/p>\n

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I dag leser jeg<\/a> at kommunionsbenkene noen steder i USA er p\u00e5 vei tilbake igjen. Og begrunnelsen noen gir er f\u00f8lgende:<\/p>\n

Altar (Communion) rails are returning for all the right reasons. Said Father Markey: \u201cFirst, the Holy Father is requiring holy Communion from him be received on the knees. Second, it\u2019s part of our tradition as Catholics for centuries to receive holy Communion on the knees. Third, it\u2019s a beautiful form of devotion to our blessed Lord.\u201d<\/p>\n

James Hitchcock, professor and author of Recovery of the Sacred (Ignatius Press, 1995), thinks the rail resurgence is a good idea. The main reason is reverence, he said. \u201cKneeling\u2019s purpose is to facilitate adoration,\u201d he explained.<\/p>\n

When Stroik proposed altar rails for the Shrine of Our Lady of Guadalupe, \u201cCardinal [Raymond] Burke liked the idea and thought that was something that would give added reverence to the Eucharist and sanctuary.\u201d<\/p>\n

In Eastern Orthodox churches, there is an iconostasis \u2014 a wall of icons and religious paintings that separate the nave from the sanctuary \u2014 rather than altar rail separating the sanctuary. While the altar rail is usually about two feet high, the iconostasis veils most of the sanctuary. \u201cThe altar rail is nothing compared to that,\u201d he says, \u201cand these are our Eastern brethren. We can benefit and learn something.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I noen kommentarer sier lesere at de ser ingen bevegelse i retning av at kommunionsbenkene n\u00e5 begynner \u00e5 komme tilbake – og realister her i Norge m\u00e5 vel si det samme.<\/p>\n

Hvorfor forsvant s\u00e5 kommunionsbenkene? Hovedartikellen nevner noen grunner, og en kommentar her<\/a>, fra Anthony Symondson, SJ, sier f\u00f8lgende:<\/p>\n

I have never entirely understood why altar rails were removed beyond discouraging the faithful from receiving Holy Communion kneeling. Some say that they work against a ‘communitarian’ interpretation of worship but that is nonsense. In most churches they are hardly seen from the nave unless one occupies the front benches. Their principle value, beyond supporting kneeling communicants, is that they define the ritual enclosure and perhaps that is the main reason why ‘progressives’ removed them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

De er tre ting i m\u00e5ten messene oftest feires p\u00e5 i v\u00e5r tid som gir lite mening for meg; at man oftest ikke bruker et tradisjonelt alter, men et bord vendt mot folket, at folk mottar kommunion i h\u00e5nden, og at folk st\u00e5r n\u00e5r de mottar kommunion, isteden for \u00e5 knele p\u00e5 kommunionsbenken. Disse forandringene […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1504","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1504","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1504"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1504\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9670,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1504\/revisions\/9670"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1504"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1504"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1504"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}