{"id":1541,"date":"2011-07-07T22:29:00","date_gmt":"2011-07-07T20:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1541"},"modified":"2011-07-07T22:30:43","modified_gmt":"2011-07-07T20:30:43","slug":"et-katolsk-tidsskrift-kritiserer-messens-syndsbekjennelse","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/07\/et-katolsk-tidsskrift-kritiserer-messens-syndsbekjennelse\/","title":{"rendered":"Et katolsk tidsskrift kritiserer messens syndsbekjennelse"},"content":{"rendered":"

Tidsskriftet er «The Tablet», som utgis i England. Jeg abonnerte selv p\u00e5 det en gang (bare ett \u00e5r, tror jeg, 1995) og utover 90-tallet leste jeg det ogs\u00e5 av og til – men jeg husker ikke at det var s\u00e5 liberalt den gangen. I forbindelse med den nye engelske oversettelsen av messen, latterliggj\u00f8r de syndsbekjennelsen – ganske sjokkerende.<\/p>\n

Det er verd \u00e5 merke seg at syndbekjennelsen som latterliggj\u00f8res, er den vanlige som brukes i den nye messen alle steder; det eneste nye er at man p\u00e5 engelsk n\u00e5 skal si «ved min skyld» tre ganger – slik det alltid har v\u00e6rt p\u00e5 latin. Jeg kjenner ikke til at verken barn eller voksne i Norge har problem med syndsbekjennelsen, men for noen (liberalere) blir veklegginga p\u00e5 v\u00e5r synd og skyld mer enn de kan klare. Les selv hva The Tablet skriver<\/a>:<\/p>\n

At Mass we have cards in the pews so we can follow the revised translation of the Mass. The options for different parts are there. This week our parish priest used the homily to speak about it. When he read out the words of the Confiteor, with the changes in bold, he was greeted with gales of laughter and even he had to smile.<\/p>\n

I confess to almighty God
\nand to you, my brothers and sisters,
\nthat I have greatly<\/strong> sinned
\nin my thoughts and in my words,
\nin what I have done and in what I have failed to do,
\n[All strike their breast]
\nthrough my fault, through my fault,
\nthrough my most grievous fault<\/strong>;<\/p>\n

No-one today in their right mind – unless perhaps they have just murdered someone – is going to harp on about «my fault, my fault, my own most grievous fault» while beating their breast, especially if they are reflecting on ordinary everyday thoughts or words that most Mass-goers might be expected to have. The picture the words give of breast-beating illiterate peasants with cloth caps and mud-clotted boots is like something out of Monty Python. …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Father Z. skriver om dette<\/a>, og har f\u00e5tt en dr\u00f8ss av kommentarer – bl.a. \u00e9n som sier: «But remember: it is less about the translation than the problem of accepting the Church\u2019s teaching about sin.»<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Tidsskriftet er «The Tablet», som utgis i England. Jeg abonnerte selv p\u00e5 det en gang (bare ett \u00e5r, tror jeg, 1995) og utover 90-tallet leste jeg det ogs\u00e5 av og til – men jeg husker ikke at det var s\u00e5 liberalt den gangen. I forbindelse med den nye engelske oversettelsen av messen, latterliggj\u00f8r de syndsbekjennelsen […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1541","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1541","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1541"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1541\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1541"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1541"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1541"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}