{"id":1570,"date":"2011-07-18T12:54:36","date_gmt":"2011-07-18T10:54:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1570"},"modified":"2011-07-18T12:54:36","modified_gmt":"2011-07-18T10:54:36","slug":"totalitaere-kirkekulturer-vil-kunne-lede-flere-til-roma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/07\/totalitaere-kirkekulturer-vil-kunne-lede-flere-til-roma\/","title":{"rendered":"Totalit\u00e6re kirkekulturer vil kunne lede flere til Roma"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dr William Tighe avslutter sitt foredrag om Anglicanorum C\u00e6tibus (som jeg ogs\u00e5 nevnte her<\/a>) med \u00e5 refere til Skandinavia (Sverige mer enn Norge) for andre gang. Denne gangen dreier det seg om en totalit\u00e6r kirkekultur som ikke ville t\u00e5le noen motstand mot de nye «dogmene» om kvinnelige prester og biskoper, og homoseksuelt samliv. I England er det ikke kommet s\u00e5 langt som i Sverige (og til og med USA ligger litt etter), men utviklinga i denne retning vil sannsynligvis fortsette, og da vil mange flere anglikanere (og lutheranere) kunne s\u00f8ke til Den katolske Kirke. <\/p>\n

I England har man lenge v\u00e6rt ganske snille mot de konservative, fordi man i 1992 ikke ville f\u00e5tt gjennomf\u00f8rt vedtaket om kvinnelige prester uten en slik gener\u00f8sitet. Men n\u00e5, n\u00e5r man vil begynne med kvinnelige biskoper i England, er man langt mindre snille – og begynner langsomt \u00e5 n\u00e6rme seg det som lenge har v\u00e6rt tilfelle i Norge i flere \u00e5r (jfr. Carissimi). Slik skriver Dr. Tinghe:<\/p>\n

… Still, we have to recall what I wrote a the beginning of the last paragraph, \u201cor at least not yet.\u201d It seems pretty certain that woman bishops will come in the Church of England, even if they fail to achieve the requisite two-thirds majority in the final vote on the current legislation in July 2012, and that with minimal and inadequate guarantees to secure the position of opponents; and it seems clear as well that the present leadership of the Church of England lacks both the will and perhaps the desire to bar the way to the acceptance of the same sort of revisionism in sexual ethics and teaching that have prevailed in other provinces of the Anglican Communion. Those English churchmen who wish to make provision for the future while time remains to do so have but to look, not so much to the Episcopal Church here in the United States and other Anglican Communion provinces such as Canada and New Zealand, as to the Scandinavian Lutheran state churches, and especially the Church of Sweden, to see what the future may hold, a kind of liberal \u201cpink\u201d church totalitarianism pushed on from behind by bien-pensant elite public opinion, the media and the so-called \u201cnanny state.\u201d It does not seem certain at all, on the other hand, how the English Ordinariat and other ordinariats yet to be erected, will fare once the initial rocky hurdles, foreseen and unforeseen, have been overcome. In England, as I have already noted above, there has been talk, among Anglicans and former Anglicans alike, of a \u201csecond wave\u201d of clergy and people coming into the Church through the Ordinariat, and perhaps there will be several such waves. That will remain our hope, but there are pressing demands and tasks enough to deal with for now. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Dr William Tighe avslutter sitt foredrag om Anglicanorum C\u00e6tibus (som jeg ogs\u00e5 nevnte her) med \u00e5 refere til Skandinavia (Sverige mer enn Norge) for andre gang. Denne gangen dreier det seg om en totalit\u00e6r kirkekultur som ikke ville t\u00e5le noen motstand mot de nye «dogmene» om kvinnelige prester og biskoper, og homoseksuelt samliv. I England […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1570","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1570","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1570"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1570\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1570"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1570"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1570"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}