{"id":1646,"date":"2011-08-18T13:01:10","date_gmt":"2011-08-18T11:01:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1646"},"modified":"2011-08-18T13:01:10","modified_gmt":"2011-08-18T11:01:10","slug":"messens-hovedstruktur-konklusjon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/08\/messens-hovedstruktur-konklusjon\/","title":{"rendered":"Messens hovedstruktur &#8211; konklusjon"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg konkluderer min grundige presentasjon av dr. Haukes foredrag ved the Fota Liturgical Conference &#8211; som jeg aller f\u00f8rst <a href=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/08\/fjerde-fota-liturgical-conference\/\">skrev om her<\/a> &#8211; med hva han sier spesifikt om noe kardinal Ratzinger har skrevet om messens hovedstruktur:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p> In a short article of 1971, cited by Ratzinger, Jungmann also shows \u201cthat, linguistically speaking, Luther\u2019s use of the word \u2018Supper\u2019 [Abendmahl] was a complete innovation. After 1 Corinthians 11:20 the designation of Eucharist as \u2018meal\u2019 does not occur  again until the sixteenth century, apart from direct quotations of 1 Corinthians 11:20 and  references to the satisfaction of hunger (in deliberate contrast to the Eucharist).\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The meaning of \u201cEucharist\u201d also fits with the meaning of rational verbal sacrifice (oblatio rationabilis), which spiritualizes the category of sacrifice and is well suited \u201cto interpret what is special in Jesus\u2019 sacrifice. For what we have here is death transformed into a word of acceptance and self-surrender.\u201d Ratzinger concludes: \u201cThis much should be clear at this stage: if the basic structure of the Mass is not the \u2018meal\u2019 but eucharistia, there remains a necessary and fruitful difference between the liturgical (structural) and the dogmatic level; but they are not estranged: each seeks and determines the other. \u2026 But the meal symbolism is subordinated to a larger whole and integrated into it.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg konkluderer min grundige presentasjon av dr. Haukes foredrag ved the Fota Liturgical Conference &#8211; som jeg aller f\u00f8rst skrev om her &#8211; med hva han sier spesifikt om noe kardinal Ratzinger har skrevet om messens hovedstruktur: In a short article of 1971, cited by Ratzinger, Jungmann also shows \u201cthat, linguistically speaking, Luther\u2019s use of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1646","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1646","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1646"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1646\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1646"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1646"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1646"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}