{"id":1685,"date":"2011-09-21T15:34:18","date_gmt":"2011-09-21T13:34:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1685"},"modified":"2011-09-21T15:34:18","modified_gmt":"2011-09-21T13:34:18","slug":"jeg-ma-reservere-meg-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/09\/jeg-ma-reservere-meg-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Jeg m\u00e5 reservere meg – 1"},"content":{"rendered":"

Jeg skrev for noen dager siden et innlegg der jeg sp\u00f8r: «Forandres forst\u00e5elsen av Vatikankonsilet?<\/a>«. Father Z. skriver noks\u00e5 skarpt imot en del av disse tankene i et senere innlegg<\/a>; der hans hovedpodeng er at det ikke kan v\u00e6re snakk om \u00e5 fire p\u00e5 ting som konsilet tydelig har bestemt i sine tekster. P\u00e5 den annen side (men det er ikke nytt) kan det v\u00e6re synspunkter (men ikke bestemmelser) fra konsilet som man ikke trenger \u00e5 ta s\u00e5 alvorlig, og s\u00e5 er det jo hele den store debatten om hvordan konsilet skal tolkes\/ forst\u00e5s, der man jo ikke trenger \u00e5 v\u00e6re enige. Man diksuterer jo tolkningen av konsilet nettopp fordi man ikke er enige om hvordan det skal tolkes. Han skriver:<\/p>\n

… speculation about the \u201cDoctrinal Preamble\u201d offered by the CDF to the SSPX during their meeting of 14 September, last. I wrote about that here.<\/p>\n

The speculation rises to a climax in an assertion that the \u201cDoctrinal Preamble\u201d might constitute a \u201cCopernican Revolution\u201d concerning the documents of the Second Vatican Council and subsequent Magisterial teaching.<\/p>\n

Again, what Rorate posted from Messa in latino is a long piece of speculation about the hypothetical text of the \u201cDoctrinal Preamble\u201d. From my reading of what they posted, if the speculation is correct, nothing new has been offered.<\/p>\n

As much as I enjoy astronomical comparisons, the claim about a \u201cCopernican Revolution\u201d isn\u2019t accurate. It suggests something new and challenging has been offered. Not quite.<\/p>\n

First, the hypothetical \u201cDoctrinal Preamble\u201d is supposed to say that the SSPX must express concerns in a respectful manner. That was already a point made in the conditions for further dialogue offered by the Holy See and accepted by the SSPX in 2008. Nothing new there. …<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Jeg skrev for noen dager siden et innlegg der jeg sp\u00f8r: «Forandres forst\u00e5elsen av Vatikankonsilet?«. Father Z. skriver noks\u00e5 skarpt imot en del av disse tankene i et senere innlegg; der hans hovedpodeng er at det ikke kan v\u00e6re snakk om \u00e5 fire p\u00e5 ting som konsilet tydelig har bestemt i sine tekster. P\u00e5 den […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1685","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1685","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1685"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1685\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1685"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1685"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1685"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}