{"id":1686,"date":"2011-09-21T15:47:54","date_gmt":"2011-09-21T13:47:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1686"},"modified":"2011-09-21T16:59:41","modified_gmt":"2011-09-21T14:59:41","slug":"jeg-ma-reservere-meg-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/09\/jeg-ma-reservere-meg-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Jeg m\u00e5 reservere meg &#8211; 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg skrev ogs\u00e5 for bare noen timer siden et innlegg kalt: &laquo;<a href=\"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/09\/bor-liturgireformen-reformeres-eller-gis-opp\/\">B\u00f8r liturgireformen reformeres \u2013 eller gis opp<\/a>?&raquo; Det innlegget var i stor grad h\u00f8yttenkning fra min side; jeg har ikke konkludert p\u00e5 dette punktet, og det er heller ikke slik at jeg uttrykker at det bare er \u00e9n l\u00f8sning p\u00e5 liturgiproblemene &#8211; det er tvert imot slik at det b\u00f8r v\u00e6re mange tiln\u00e6rmingsm\u00e5ter og strategier for \u00e5 fremme en bedre liturgi i Kirken.<\/p>\n<p>Men det tidligere innlegget uttrykker synspunkter, og viser til en begynnende bevegelse\/ forandring blant prester og teologer som i flere \u00e5r har arbeidet med liturgisp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l, og som inntil n\u00e5 bare har snakket om en &laquo;reform at liturgireformen&raquo;, der man tar utgangspunkt i messen fra 1969 og fors\u00f8ker \u00e5 forbedre den, mest ved at man velger alternativer innenfor denne messen som gj\u00f8r den mest mulig verdig. <\/p>\n<p>Innlegget uttrykker at man n\u00e5 (og jeg merker det selv, etter \u00e5 ha feiret den gamle messen regelmessig i snart fire \u00e5r) like gjerne kan ta utgangspunkt i messen fra 1962 (og hele den tradisjonelle liturgien, til alle sakramenter osv.) n\u00e5r man vurderer hvordan messen og de andre sakramentene best kan feires. Samtidig vet vi at mange\/ de fleste ikke klar for en slik m\u00e5te \u00e5 tenke p\u00e5 enn\u00e5, og det ligger ingen \u00f8nske om \u00e5 tvinge noen til \u00e5 tenke som oss. (Men det hadde v\u00e6rt fint om det kraftige presset <strong>mot<\/strong> \u00e5 bruke Kirkens gamle ritualer &#8211; som det jo n\u00e5 er fullt tillatt \u00e5 bruke &#8211; snart kunne opph\u00f8re.) <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg skrev ogs\u00e5 for bare noen timer siden et innlegg kalt: &laquo;B\u00f8r liturgireformen reformeres \u2013 eller gis opp?&raquo; Det innlegget var i stor grad h\u00f8yttenkning fra min side; jeg har ikke konkludert p\u00e5 dette punktet, og det er heller ikke slik at jeg uttrykker at det bare er \u00e9n l\u00f8sning p\u00e5 liturgiproblemene &#8211; det er [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1686","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1686","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1686"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1686\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1687,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1686\/revisions\/1687"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1686"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1686"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1686"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}