{"id":1712,"date":"2011-10-02T07:54:38","date_gmt":"2011-10-02T05:54:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=1712"},"modified":"2011-10-02T00:02:48","modified_gmt":"2011-10-01T22:02:48","slug":"pave-benedikt-samarbeid-men-ikke-fullt-fellesskap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2011\/10\/pave-benedikt-samarbeid-men-ikke-fullt-fellesskap\/","title":{"rendered":"Pave Benedikt: «Samarbeid, men ikke fullt fellesskap»"},"content":{"rendered":"

John Allen skriver ogs\u00e5<\/a> i sitt innsiktsfulle innlegg om pave Benedikts bes\u00f8k i Tyskland om m\u00f8tet med protestantene:<\/p>\n

Benedict\u2019s return to the Land of Luther was always destined to be scrutinized for its impact on ecumenical relations, especially with the Protestant churches of the Reformation. On that score, to put it politely, Benedict drew mixed reviews.<\/p>\n

The pope clearly signaled his ecumenical commitment, presiding over a service with a Lutheran bishop in the Erfurt monastery were Martin Luther was ordained an Augustinian monk. The pontiff expressed admiration for Luther\u2019s passionate quest to understand God\u2019s mercy, and Archbishop Robert Zollitsch, president of the German bishops conference, even said that Benedict asked him to find a way for the Catholic church to participate in celebrations of the 500th anniversary of the Protestant Reformation in 2017 — by any standard, a remarkably irenic touch from a Roman Pontiff.<\/p>\n

Yet Benedict didn\u2019t offer any breakthroughs, or even signals of flexibility, on the contentious points in Catholic\/Lutheran relations, such as inter-communion or mixed marriages. For those who believe such reforms are a prerequisite to progress, the performance therefore left much to be desired.<\/p>\n

Pundit Klaus Kr\u00e4mer, for instance, wrote that Benedict still styles \u201cthe Catholic church as the \u2018cruise ship,\u2019 while the Protestant church is, at best, a \u2018container ship\u2019 that should follow the Vatican\u2019s course.\u201d The Frankfurter Rundschau was even more acerbic, calling the trip an \u201cecumenical disaster\u201d and Benedict\u2019s approach to Protestants \u201cspectacularly half-hearted, patronizing, and callous.\u201d<\/p>\n

…. What seemed clear from the Germany trip is that Benedict XVI regards collaboration in responding to these external challenges as the near-term future of the ecumenical movement — and not, therefore, structural unity that might lead to inter-communion. The ecumenical agenda on his watch, in other words, is more ad extra than ad intra.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

I sin tale til protestantiske kirkeledere Erfurt, beskrev pave Benedikt to omr\u00e5der der katolikker og tradisjonelle protestantiske kirkesamfunn kan samarbeide; i m\u00f8te med det stadig mer sekul\u00e6re samfunnet og med de nye, karismatiske kristne grupperingene (som han ikke beskriver s\u00e6rlig positivt):<\/p>\n

The \u201cnew geography of Christianity,\u201d by which the pope seemed to mean the dramatic growth of Pentecostal and Evangelical Christianity around the world, especially in the southern hemisphere. He called it \u201ca form of Christianity with little institutional depth, little rationality and even less dogmatic content, and with little stability\u201d<\/strong> — implying that whatever their differences, Catholics and Lutherans still have more in common with one another than, say, the Brazilian Pentecostal \u201cChurch of Christ\u2019s Spit.\u201d<\/p>\n

Secularism in the West, where \u201cGod is increasingly being driven out of our society\u201d and the history of revelation recounted in Scripture is \u201clocked into an ever more remote past.\u201d Secularism puts all Christians in the same boat, the pope said, just as they once faced a common threat from the Nazis — and just as the witness of the martyrs gave rise to the ecumenical movement of the 20th century, he said, today a common faith lived within the secular world is \u201cthe most powerful ecumenical force that brings us together.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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