{"id":1890,"date":"2009-07-02T17:39:39","date_gmt":"2009-07-02T15:39:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1931"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:23:36","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:23:36","slug":"benediktinere-skal-feire-bade-den-gamle-og-den-nye-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/07\/benediktinere-skal-feire-bade-den-gamle-og-den-nye-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Benediktinerne i Norcia skal feire b\u00e5de den gamle og den nye messen"},"content":{"rendered":"

Benediktinerne i moderklosteret i Norcia i Italia<\/a> har – etter foresp\u00f8rsel fra Vatikanet – bestemt at de skal feire b\u00e5de den nye og den gamle messen i sitt kloster. I april i \u00e5r sendte kardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, President i kommisjonen \u201cEcclesia Dei\u201d f\u00f8lgende brev til klosterets prior, p. Cassian Folsom, OSB:<\/p>\n

His Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI, from the very beginning of his pontificate, has made known his desire to foster the unity of the Church. As in the past so also today, the careful celebration of the Sacred Mysteries is a most efficacious instrument for achieving this goal.<\/p>\n

For this reason, fatihful to the intentions of the Motu Proprio Summorum Pontificum, this Pontifical Commission, responding to your request, entrusts to the Monastery of San Benedetto in Norcia the special apostolate of the celebration of the Holy Eucharist \u201cin utroque usu\u201d, that is, both in the ordinary as well as the extraordinary form of the Roman Rite<\/strong>, in collaboration with the Holy See and in communion with the diocesan bishop.<\/p>\n

I am confident that your young Benedictine community will always support the pastoral activity of the Supreme Pontiff with faithful prayer.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

I klosterets nyhetsbrev<\/a> (pdf) kan man n\u00e5 lese (som jeg allerede har nevnt) at de skal feire messen i \u201cin utroque usu\u201d, og i et intervju i dette nyhetsbrevet svarer prioren p\u00e5 sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l om hvorfor de gj\u00f8r dette:<\/p>\n

Does this decision respect the Second Vatican Council Council?<\/p>\n

It would be useful to read carefully the Council document on the Liturgy, SC 22 says that: \u201cRegulation of the sacred liturgy depends solely on the authority of the Church, that is, on the Apostolic See and, as laws may determine, on the bishop.\u201d Pope Benedict\u2019s Motu Proprio simply reiterates that principle, and legislates for the use of the old rite alongside the new. Pope Benedict also emphasizes that the way to interpret the Council documents is by the hermeneutic of continuity. That principle is also expressed in the document on the liturgy where it says: \u201c\u2026care must be taken that any new forms adopted should in some way grow organically from forms already existing\u201d (SC 23What we\u2019re really talking about here is legitimate pluralism, which the Council advocates as well: \u201cEven in the liturgy, the Church has no wish to impose a rigid uniformity in matters which do not involve the faith or the good of the whole community\u201d (SC 37). So the celebration of the Mass by all means respects the Second Vatican Council. We are embracing both usages, and reaching out to other groups in search of unity. That\u2019s a very conciliar approach.<\/p>\n

But doesn\u2019t this mean \u201cturning back the clock\u201d?<\/p>\n

On the contrary, I see a monastery \u201cutriusque usus\u201d as very forward looking, especially in terms of authentic ecumenism. By that I mean two things. <\/font><\/i> First, the ethos of the extraordinary form is very similar to the ethos of the many oriental rites, and therefore celebrating the Eucharist according to both the and the allows us to serve as a bridge between East and West. Second, I think we need a good dose of \u201cinternal ecumenism\u201d in the Church, so as to be able to dialogue with Catholics attached to the older liturgical forms without ideological prejudice.<\/p>\n

How can you, as a liturgist, justify such a decision?<\/p>\n

It is precisely as a liturgist that I have had the opportunity to study and experience the rich variety of liturgical traditions that exist within the Church. It is \u201cpolitically correct\u201d for Latin rite Catholics to be enthusiastic about the Byzantine rite. Why isn\u2019t it \u201cpolitically correct\u201d to be enthusiastic about the extraordinary form as well? The history of the liturgy shows clearly a multiplicity of usages within the one Roman rite. It is thanks to many years of studying the liturgy that I came to see the importance of this unity in diversity. In fact, I argued this point in the presence of the then-Cardinal Ratzinger at a liturgical conference held at Fontgombault in France in 1997. As a liturgist, I would also like to say that there is no perfect rite; there are positive and negative aspects in every liturgical tradition. The only perfect liturgy is the heavenly one. In addition, both the extraordinary and the ordinary form can be celebrated well or celebrated poorly. For a comparison to be fair, we have to place the best of both side by side.<\/p>\n

How can the two usages influence each other?<\/p>\n

The ordinary form stresses such elements as the participation of the faithful, the use of the vernacular, the ongoing development of the liturgy by the addition of new saints to the calendar, etc.: these are all very important. At the risk of oversimplifying, I would say that the ordinary form stresses rational understanding, speaking in prose, as it were. The extraordinary form provides rich food for the intellect also, but relies heavily on gesture, symbolism, intuition, silence, ritual action without words, speaking in poetry, you might say. Man knows both rationally and intuitively. He needs both prose and poetry. If the two usages, like two different cultures, can patiently live with each other over time, they can become friends. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

B\u00e5de NLM<\/a> og Father Z.<\/a> skriver om dette.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Benediktinerne i moderklosteret i Norcia i Italia har – etter foresp\u00f8rsel fra Vatikanet – bestemt at de skal feire b\u00e5de den nye og den gamle messen i sitt kloster. I april i \u00e5r sendte kardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos, President i kommisjonen \u201cEcclesia Dei\u201d f\u00f8lgende brev til klosterets prior, p. Cassian Folsom, OSB: His Holiness, Pope […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1890","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1890","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1890"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1890\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5279,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1890\/revisions\/5279"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1890"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1890"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1890"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}