… My pastor says that no baptisms can be celebrated during Advent or Lent. I don\u2019t know if this is a norm or just his understanding. What are my obligations here? Am I misunderstanding that it is my duty to have the child baptized within 3 weeks or so. My pastor is actually moving towards embracing tradtion, and I don\u2019t know if this is a fight (however minor) that I should pick. … <\/p><\/blockquote>\n
Father Z. kommenterer dette p\u00e5 en m\u00e5te som viser at han har forholdsvis stor forst\u00e5else for prestens synspunkter – mer enn jeg har. Etter \u00e5 ha lest kommentarene etter innlegget syns jeg bildet blir noe klarere; f.eks. var en katolsk vielse tidligere ikke forbudt i advent og faste, men brudemessen var det, og eventuelle festligheter rundt bryllupet. Og i tidligere tider sa Kirken at spebarn m\u00e5tte d\u00f8pes innen \u00e5tte dager etter f\u00f8dselen (og i dag sier kirkerettens kanon 867 \u00a71. Parents are obliged to take care that infants are baptized in the first few weeks\u2026 …), men samtidig har man tidligere ikke d\u00f8pt voksne i advent og faste.<\/p>\n
… even in the strictest case, marriages were allowed in the closed times, but the Mass and blessing had to happen outside them<\/p>\n
And if it is true that some diocese pretends to forbid baptism during Lent or Advent, then that rule is null and void. A diocese cannot take away a right guaranteed by the Church, nor impede in the faithful fulfilling their duty to baptise with the first few weeks. (As the old law was held to be ideally within 3 days and at most 8 days, it would be an absolute absurdity to claim any argument of tradition\u2026Florence itself laid down the law, no more than 8 days). So any priest or diocese claiming that they are restoring traditional practice by refusing to baptise infants in these seasons is speaking nonsense. That adults are preferably baptised at Easter OR Pentecost is fine, that has always been the case. Even the 1917 code which commanded baptism within 8 days for children, had a strong recommendation not to baptise adults in those seasons outside of necessity.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
Jeg har alltid (ogs\u00e5 som luthersk prest) v\u00e6rt av den oppfatning at barned\u00e5p b\u00f8r skje ganske snart etter f\u00f8dselen – \u00e5 vente mer enn en m\u00e5ned skulle i de fleste tilfeller ikke v\u00e6re n\u00f8dvendig. Men i praksis venter sv\u00e6rt mange foreldre lenger enn som s\u00e5, og det er bedre \u00e5 d\u00f8pe et barn etter tre […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-207","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=207"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/207\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=207"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=207"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=207"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}