{"id":208,"date":"2010-07-16T11:50:49","date_gmt":"2010-07-16T09:50:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=208"},"modified":"2010-07-17T15:42:09","modified_gmt":"2010-07-17T13:42:09","slug":"vatikanet-har-oppdatert-reglene-for-behandlingen-av-pedofile-prester","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/07\/vatikanet-har-oppdatert-reglene-for-behandlingen-av-pedofile-prester\/","title":{"rendered":"Vatikanet har oppdatert reglene for behandlingen av pedofile prester"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Oppdateringa av Vatikanets regler for behandlingen av alvorlige regelbrudd (ikke bare seksuelle overgrep) er blitt omtalt ogs\u00e5 i norske aviser, bl.a. i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dagbladet.no\/2010\/07\/15\/nyheter\/utenriks\/vatikanet\/12578834\/\">Dagbladet<\/a> og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vl.no\/kristenliv\/article61270.zrm\">V\u00e5rt Land<\/a> (NTB-stoff i begge tilfeller).  <\/p>\n<p>Et stykke p\u00e5 vei er disse artiklene korrekte, men for det ene f\u00e5r de ikke helt med seg at det aller meste som st\u00e5r i det nye dokumentet allerede ble innf\u00f8rt for flere m\u00e5neder eller \u00e5r siden, men n\u00e5 er samla i dette offisielle dokumentet. <strong>For det andre (og mer alvorlig) hevder NTB<\/strong>: &laquo;Men kritikere raser over at kirken ikke gir etter for det viktigste kravet fra pressgruppene, nemlig at prester som mistenkes for overgrep, skal anmeldes og overgis til sivile politimyndigheter.  Reglene er en del av kirkens lov og ang\u00e5r derfor kirken alene, insisterer Lombardi.&raquo; Dette er ikke korrekt, fordi Vatikanet tydelig sier at her skal det aktuelle lands regler f\u00f8lges fullt ut; krever et land at alle slike saker m\u00e5 politianmeldes, s\u00e5 skal de det:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\n&laquo;If state law requires reporting, we must absolutely obey. No excuses. If the law allows the victim to decide whether to report or not, we must respect the legislature&#8217;s decision,&raquo; said Msgr Scicluna.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>OPPDATERING:<br \/>\nL\u00f8rdag ettermiddag 17\/7 str\u00f8k VL p\u00e5 min oppfordring dette avsnittet (over) i sin artikkel.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>P\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mercatornet.com\/justb16\/view\/7600\/\">mercatornet<\/a> st\u00e5r det mer om dokumentet:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Msgr. Charles Scicluna, the Vatican&#8217;s Promoter of Justice, said at a press conference: \u201cI think it gives the signal that we are very very serious in our commitment to promote safe environments and to offer an adequate response to abuse.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The new Vatican rules against sex abuse are a set of processes and sanctions exclusively internal to the Church. The rules are not intended to replace state laws, which the Vatican insists must be respected as well. &#8230;. <\/p>\n<p>The new Vatican text is an update to the Apostolic Letter Sacramentorum Sanctitatis Tutela concerning serious crimes against morality and the sacraments. The majority of the new Vatican norms convert prior provisions into law.<\/p>\n<p>From now on, the Church will proceed internally against an accused priest up to 20 years after the victim&#8217;s 18th birthday; the previous statute was 10 years after the victim turned 18. The Church also reserves the right to further extend the period in exceptional cases. &#8230; <\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/ncronline.org\/news\/vatican\/vatican-revises-church-law-sex-abuse\">John Allen skriver ogs\u00e5 om dette<\/a>, og har bl.a. en <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncrnews.org\/documents\/norms_de_gravioribus_delictis.pdf\">lenke til det aktuelle Vatikan-dokumentet<\/a> (pdf-fil), som er p\u00e5 10 sider, med mange fotnoter, og alts\u00e5 inneholder regler for behandling av mange alvorlige saker (graviora delicta) &#8211; som brudd p\u00e5 skriftem\u00e5lsreglene, fors\u00f8k p\u00e5 \u00e5 ordinere en kvinne til prest, feire eukaristien sammen med en protestantisk prest etc. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oppdateringa av Vatikanets regler for behandlingen av alvorlige regelbrudd (ikke bare seksuelle overgrep) er blitt omtalt ogs\u00e5 i norske aviser, bl.a. i Dagbladet og V\u00e5rt Land (NTB-stoff i begge tilfeller). Et stykke p\u00e5 vei er disse artiklene korrekte, men for det ene f\u00e5r de ikke helt med seg at det aller meste som st\u00e5r i [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generelt","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":212,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208\/revisions\/212"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}