{"id":2090,"date":"2009-12-18T16:27:56","date_gmt":"2009-12-18T14:27:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2133"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:02:13","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:02:13","slug":"to-danske-katolske-sogneprester-sterkt-kritiske-til-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/12\/to-danske-katolske-sogneprester-sterkt-kritiske-til-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"To danske katolske prester sterkt kritiske til den tradisjonelle latinske messen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har nylig skrevet to ganger &#8211; <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/2132\">HER <\/a> (det f\u00f8rste innlegget) og <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/2131\">HER<\/a> (biskop Kozon svarer disse to prestene) &#8211; om en debatt i Danmark om den tradisjonelle latinske messen. To sogneprester priser f\u00f8rst den nye messen, f\u00f8r de skriver f\u00f8lgende bl.a. om pave Benedikt:<\/p>\n<p><i> &#8230; Som pave kan Benedikt XVI tr\u00e6ffe en kontrabestemmelse, hvilket han desv\u00e6rre har gjort. Hans personlige fork\u00e6rlighed til den tridentinske messeform, legitimeret i, at osse en del andre stadigv\u00e6k, \u2013 hellere end en levende menighedens gudstjeneste, \u2013 \u00f8nsker en sceneopf\u00f8relse af en museums-liturgi, der i vor samtid virker som en mellemting mellem en danseskoles afdansningbal og en d\u00e5rlig opf\u00f8relse af menuetten fra \u201dElverh\u00f8j\u201d med kniksende pr\u00e6ster, kl\u00e6dt ud i dameundert\u00f8j fra klunketiden med kardinal-udkl\u00e6dte, h\u00e5ndkyssende ministranter omkring sig (hver gang birettaen afleveres), har \u00e5bnet for et liturgisk\/pastoralt tilbageskridt, som vi nu som mulighed m\u00e5 finde os i at kunne blive konfronteret med, s\u00e5 l\u00e6nge Benedikt er pave. Men det er hverken respektl\u00f8st eller ukatolsk at tro og h\u00e5be, at dette vanvid vil blive bragt til ende med den n\u00e6ste pave.<\/p>\n<p>p. Stephen Holm &#038; p. Thomas Birkheuser<br \/>\nsognepr\u00e6ster, Montfortkommunitetet <\/i><\/p>\n<p>(Hele innlegget <a href=\"http:\/\/www.katolskorientering.dk\/fileadmin\/BILLEDER\/PDF_UDGAVER\/2009\/17\/katolsk_orientering_17_lowres.pdf\">kan leses HER<\/a>, (pdf) under leserbrev s. 7.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg har nylig skrevet to ganger &#8211; HER (det f\u00f8rste innlegget) og HER (biskop Kozon svarer disse to prestene) &#8211; om en debatt i Danmark om den tradisjonelle latinske messen. To sogneprester priser f\u00f8rst den nye messen, f\u00f8r de skriver f\u00f8lgende bl.a. om pave Benedikt: &#8230; Som pave kan Benedikt XVI tr\u00e6ffe en kontrabestemmelse, hvilket [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2090","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2090","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2090"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2090\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4974,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2090\/revisions\/4974"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2090"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2090"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2090"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}