{"id":210,"date":"2010-07-17T11:55:11","date_gmt":"2010-07-17T09:55:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/?p=210"},"modified":"2010-07-17T17:17:28","modified_gmt":"2010-07-17T15:17:28","slug":"pedofili-pa-linje-med-ordinering-kvinnelige-prester","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2010\/07\/pedofili-pa-linje-med-ordinering-kvinnelige-prester\/","title":{"rendered":"Pedofili p\u00e5 linje med ordinering kvinnelige prester?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>NTB har enda en upresis beskrivelse av <strong>Vatikanets nye samledokument<\/strong> om alvorlige kirkelig overtredelser &#8211; og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vl.no\/kristenliv\/article61302.zrm\">V\u00e5rt Land trykker dette<\/a> uten \u00e5 redigere det eller vurdere det selv ser det ut til (kanskje de har for mange sommervikarer p\u00e5 jobb?) Her leser vi:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ordinering av kvinner som prester i den katolske kirke er <strong>fra n\u00e5 av<\/strong> \u00e5 regne som en alvorlig forbrytelse mot troen, if\u00f8lge Vatikanet. Det setter handlingen i samme kategori som pedofili. Fors\u00f8k p\u00e5 \u00e5 ordinere kvinner vil fra n\u00e5 av h\u00e5ndteres av den katolske kirkens Troskongregasjon, kunngjorde Vatikanet torsdag. Samtidig ble det fastsl\u00e5tt at \u00e5 ordinere kvinner som katolske prester regnes blant de mest alvorlige forbrytelsene man if\u00f8lge Vatikanets reglement kan beg\u00e5. I denne kategorien finner man fra f\u00f8r pedofili og kjetteri.<\/p>\n<p>Vatikanet annonserte torsdag <strong>nye<\/strong> regler for hvordan kirken skal h\u00e5ndtere etterforskning av prester som mistenkes for \u00e5 ha beg\u00e5tt seksuelle overgrep. Samtidig kom ogs\u00e5 den <strong>nye<\/strong> kategoriseringen av fors\u00f8k p\u00e5 ordinering av kvinnelige prester.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>OPPDATERING:<br \/>\nVL har l\u00f8rdag 17\/7 forandra starten av denne artikkelen, etter at jeg kontakta dem, slik at den i mye st\u00f8rre grad presenterer bakgrunnen for Vatikanets dokument korrekt.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Men rett skal v\u00e6re rett; ogs\u00e5 konservative katolske bloggere syns Vatikanets PR-tjeneste her har dummet seg ut. De forst\u00e5r at dette er gamle bestemmlser gitt i l\u00f8pet av de siste ti \u00e5r, men mener likevel at Vatikanet burde ha forst\u00e5tt at de ikke kunne presenteres samtidig overfor verdenspressen. Vatikanet gj\u00f8r tydeligvis ikke det andre store instituashoner gj\u00f8r PR-messig &#8211; sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let er om de \u00f8nsker \u00e5 gj\u00f8re det, eller b\u00f8r gj\u00f8re det.<\/p>\n<p>Bloggeren <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/blogs\/theanchoress\/2010\/07\/16\/the-vaticans-epic-fail\/\">The Anchoress har en kraftig utbl\u00e5sning<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Honestly, do I have to go to Rome and storm the press office of the Holy See, and sit the curia down and pull their hats off to smack them upside the head? Must I bang on their desks and say: \u201cstupido! Stupido! PR IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE! On the rare occasion where you\u2019ve done something that will bring you a cautious measure of good will, or at least less-hostile reportage, you don\u2019t tie it in with a controversial issue and allow nonsense equivalences to be drawn by people who do not move beyond headlines and soundbites!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Ikke alle kommentarene er enige i denne tiraden, bl.a. sier en av dem:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Of course, this was not a news release, it was an updated list of revisions to canon law regarding \u201cdelicta graviora\u201d, or \u201cgrave crimes\u201d against church law. It also contains a list of other \u201cdelicta graviora\u201d concerning the celebration of the sacraments, not just about the sacrament of Holy Orders. When media types are looking to lambaste the Church, as is usually the case in the English speaking media, no amount of \u201cVatican PR\u201d will help.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>NTB har enda en upresis beskrivelse av Vatikanets nye samledokument om alvorlige kirkelig overtredelser &#8211; og V\u00e5rt Land trykker dette uten \u00e5 redigere det eller vurdere det selv ser det ut til (kanskje de har for mange sommervikarer p\u00e5 jobb?) Her leser vi: Ordinering av kvinner som prester i den katolske kirke er fra n\u00e5 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-210","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generelt","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=210"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":214,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210\/revisions\/214"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=210"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=210"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=210"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}