{"id":2383,"date":"2006-05-13T15:03:46","date_gmt":"2006-05-13T13:03:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/144"},"modified":"2012-02-13T10:58:37","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T09:58:37","slug":"et-m%c3%b8te-i-vatikanets-enhetskommisjon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2006\/05\/et-m%c3%b8te-i-vatikanets-enhetskommisjon\/","title":{"rendered":"Et m\u00f8te i Vatikanets enhetskommisjon &#8211; liten optimisme"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Torsdag hadde jeg et m\u00f8te med Matthias T\u00fcrk, som er ansvarlig for katolsk-lutherske samtalene i Vatikanets enhetskommisjon &#8211; offisielt engelsk navn er The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/pontifical_councils\/chrstuni\/index.htm\">Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Vi snakket bl.a. om den nesten avsluttede samtalerunden som katolikkene har hatt med de lutherske kirkene om kirkens apostolisitet, samtalene har f\u00e5tt det offisielle navnet &laquo;Lutheran-Catholic Commission on Unity&raquo;. Dialogrunden har vart i 10 \u00e5r, noe Matthias T\u00fcrk syns var for lenge, men n\u00e5 skal man om noen f\u00e5 uker legge siste h\u00e5nd p\u00e5 det avsluttende dokumentet og dermed gj\u00f8re arbeidet helt ferdig.<\/p>\n<p>Etter en pause p\u00e5 et \u00e5rs tid vil man s\u00e5 ta fatt p\u00e5 en nye samtalerunde, der man sannsynligvis vil ta opp temaer som har med Luther-jubileet i 2017 \u00e5 gj\u00f8re. Muligens blir det noe som dreier seg om de sentrale ting i Luthers\/den lutherske reformasjon.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg spurte da om man (virkelig) ikke ville ta opp noe som ville v\u00e6re litt dristigere, og kunne f\u00f8re kirkene litt raskere i retning av full kommunion. Nei, sa Matthias T\u00fcrk, det regnet han ikke med. Selv om Den katolske kirke er absolutt forpliktet p\u00e5 videre \u00f8kumenisk arbeid og samtaler, er det dessverre ikke noe som tyder p\u00e5 at man i n\u00e6r fremtid ville kunne l\u00f8se de gjenst\u00e5ende vanskelige problemene.<\/p>\n<p>Tidligere i samtalen hadde han nevnt at ordinasjonen av kvinnelige prester i de lutherske kirkene hadde skapt vanskeligheter for dialogen fra slutten av 70-tallet av, og som i forholdet til Den Anglikanske kirke, var det ogs\u00e5 i de luthersk-katolske dialogene faretruende skyer mht. etiske problemstillinger.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Torsdag hadde jeg et m\u00f8te med Matthias T\u00fcrk, som er ansvarlig for katolsk-lutherske samtalene i Vatikanets enhetskommisjon &#8211; offisielt engelsk navn er The Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity. 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