{"id":2432,"date":"2006-06-15T08:22:11","date_gmt":"2006-06-15T06:22:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/199"},"modified":"2006-06-15T08:22:11","modified_gmt":"2006-06-15T06:22:11","slug":"ratzingers-og-den-liturgiske-utviklingen-avstemming-i-usa","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2006\/06\/ratzingers-og-den-liturgiske-utviklingen-avstemming-i-usa\/","title":{"rendered":"Ratzinger og den liturgiske utviklingen \u2013 avstemming i USA"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I Ratzingers selvbiografi for \u00e5rene 1927-1977, &laquo;Milestones&raquo;, skriver han ogs\u00e5 om arbeidet med liturgirevisjonen under Vatikankonsilet, p\u00e5 s 122-23.<\/p>\n<p>Han skriver her at det ikke var noe \u00f8nske om \u00e5 gj\u00f8re noen forandringer liturgien hos de fleste biskopene, f.eks. i Italia. Den liturgiske bevegelsen (og ogs\u00e5 teologisk utvikling p\u00e5 andre omr\u00e5der) hadde kommet langt i Tyskland og Frankrike, pluss Nederland og Belgia, men ikke andre steder. Biskopene fra disse landene fikk likevel overbevist er stort flertall p\u00e5 konsilet om at en viss liturgisk fornyelse var n\u00f8dvendig, bl.a. at morsm\u00e5let skulle tillates i messen mer enn f\u00f8r. Men ingen\/f\u00e5 hadde vel dr\u00f8mt om at forandringene skulle bli s\u00e5 dramatiske som de i praksis ble.<\/p>\n<p>Ratzinger som tysker hadde forst\u00e5else den nye teologiske utviklingen, men begynte ganske snart (allerede p\u00e5 60-taller) \u00e5 mene at forandringene i Kirken skjedde for fort, gikk for langt, var av feil type etc. For mange er det vel kjent at han i noen \u00e5r n\u00e5 har arbeidet for \u00e5 revidere forst\u00e5elsen\/ konsekvensene av Vatikankonsilet p\u00e5 en del punkter. Det er kanskje aller mest liturgien (og folks opplevelse av messefeiringen) han har \u00f8nsket \u00e5 tilbakef\u00f8re, og i denne tidlige selvbiografien ser vi allerede dette \u00f8nsket.<\/p>\n<p>For alle som f\u00f8lger med i katolske saker internasjonalt er det vel godt kjent at en ny oversettelse av messen p\u00e5 engelsk n\u00e5 nesten er ferdig. Denne oversettelsen skal gjelde for alle engelskspr\u00e5klige land og i mange land har biskopene allerede godkjent den nye oversettelsen (der man for eksempel skal si \u201dAnd with your spirit\u201d isteden for \u201dAnd also with you.\u201d). I disse dager skal <a href=\"http:\/\/www.usccb.org\/comm\/archives\/2006\/06-091.shtml\">den amerikanske bispekonferansen stemme over forslagene<\/a>, og siden en del biskoper der er mot disse \u2019konservative\u2019 forandringene, er det stor spenning og usikkerhet rundt avstemmingsresultatet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I Ratzingers selvbiografi for \u00e5rene 1927-1977, &laquo;Milestones&raquo;, skriver han ogs\u00e5 om arbeidet med liturgirevisjonen under Vatikankonsilet, p\u00e5 s 122-23. Han skriver her at det ikke var noe \u00f8nske om \u00e5 gj\u00f8re noen forandringer liturgien hos de fleste biskopene, f.eks. i Italia. Den liturgiske bevegelsen (og ogs\u00e5 teologisk utvikling p\u00e5 andre omr\u00e5der) hadde kommet langt i [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2432","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2432","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2432"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2432\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2432"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2432"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2432"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}