{"id":2531,"date":"2006-10-11T08:59:43","date_gmt":"2006-10-11T06:59:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/304"},"modified":"2006-10-11T08:59:43","modified_gmt":"2006-10-11T06:59:43","slug":"pavens-foredrag-er-na-lagt-ut-med-fotnoter-etc","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2006\/10\/pavens-foredrag-er-na-lagt-ut-med-fotnoter-etc\/","title":{"rendered":"Pavens foredrag er n\u00e5 lagt ut med fotnoter etc."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pavens mye omdiskuterte foredrag i Regensburg i Tyskland om forholdet mellom tro og viten (og der han ogs\u00e5 nevnte Islam) er n\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/holy_father\/benedict_xvi\/speeches\/2006\/september\/documents\/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html\">lagt ut p\u00e5 Vatikanets nettsider <\/a>i fullstendig form, med fothoter osv., slik pave Benedikt lovet tidligere.<\/p>\n<p>Vi legger merke til at sitatet om Muhammed er innledet mer forsiktig i denne utgaven. For en m\u00e5ned siden sa paven s\u00e5 langt vi vet at &laquo;keiseren vendte seg til sin samtalepartner og sa ganske direkte (brusquely) ang. det sentrale sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let om forholdet mellom religion og vold &#8230; ..&raquo; I den bearbeidede utgaven st\u00e5r det n\u00e5 &laquo;og sa sjokkerende direkte (brusquely), p\u00e5 en m\u00e5te som vi finner uakseptabel &#8230;&raquo;.<\/p>\n<p>Ellers er sitatet det samme og like dirkte som sist, og vi kan bare lure p\u00e5 om en litt forsiktigere innledning f\u00f8r de kritiske ord om Muhammed, ville ha mildnet den muslimske reaksjonen. Her siterer jeg den offisielle engelske versjonen:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">I would like to discuss only one point (in this dialogue) &#8211; itself rather marginal to the dialogue as a whole &#8211; which, in the context of the issue of &laquo;faith and reason&raquo;, I found interesting and which can serve as the starting-point for my reflections on this issue. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8230; (The emperor) addresses his interlocutor <strong>with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable<\/strong>, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: &laquo;Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.\u201d The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pavens mye omdiskuterte foredrag i Regensburg i Tyskland om forholdet mellom tro og viten (og der han ogs\u00e5 nevnte Islam) er n\u00e5 lagt ut p\u00e5 Vatikanets nettsider i fullstendig form, med fothoter osv., slik pave Benedikt lovet tidligere. Vi legger merke til at sitatet om Muhammed er innledet mer forsiktig i denne utgaven. 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