{"id":2859,"date":"2007-05-04T09:28:30","date_gmt":"2007-05-04T07:28:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/652"},"modified":"2012-02-13T10:57:01","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T09:57:01","slug":"embedssynet-et-alvorlig-%c3%b8kumenisk-problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/05\/embedssynet-et-alvorlig-%c3%b8kumenisk-problem\/","title":{"rendered":"Embedssynet &#8211; et alvorlig \u00f8kumenisk problem"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Det blir (for meg) stadig tydeligere at synet p\u00e5 bispe- og prestembedet er det st\u00f8rste problemet i de \u00f8kumeniske samtalene; det gj\u00f8r bl.a. at vi katolikker stiller alvorlige sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l ved nattverdfeiringa i de protestaniske kirkene.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg tenker av og til tilbake p\u00e5 fjor\u00e5ret i Roma, og akkurat n\u00e5 er det et \u00e5r siden jeg leverte inn en oppgave p\u00e5 det pavelige universitetet Angelicum. Den handlet ikke om embedssynet generelt, men mer spesifikt om &laquo;<strong>Synet p\u00e5 Peters-embedet i luthersk-katolske dialoger<\/strong>&laquo;. Med andre ord: Hvor langt har lutheranere og katolikker kommet i enighet om selve paveembedet?<\/p>\n<p>Man er vel ikke kommet s\u00e5 veldig langt skulle man tro, men det var til min overraskelse bare delvis riktig. Hele <a href=\"\/odv\/artikl\/petr_off_06.htm\">oppgaven min kan leses HER<\/a>, og konklusjonen min er disse fem korte punktene:<\/p>\n<p><font color=\"#333399\">1. The issue of the Petrine office has been considered a very difficult problem in the Catholic-Lutheran dialogues.<\/p>\n<p>2. Lutherans have not quite ruled out the possibility of the Petrine office &#8211; even though they at one point called the pope the anti-Christ. Some Lutherans see the need of a unifying office in the church, though   they are not really sure this office should be set up.<\/p>\n<p>3. There still seems to be two very important questions\/problems between Catholics and Lutherans when they talk about this issue: a) Is the Petrine office necessary for the church and b) how should it be exercised?<\/p>\n<p>4. I have noticed a certain imbalance in this dialogue; the Lutherans seem to need to change a lot to accept the papacy, while for Catholics it is more a matter of presenting the papacy in a more open way.<\/p>\n<p>5. There is a certain openness among some Lutherans to accept the Petrine office, yet after the last 30-40 years of dialogue, this potential solution has remained just that; potential. And it is really very hard to say if or when Catholics and Lutherans will come closer to an agreement on the Petrine office.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Det blir (for meg) stadig tydeligere at synet p\u00e5 bispe- og prestembedet er det st\u00f8rste problemet i de \u00f8kumeniske samtalene; det gj\u00f8r bl.a. at vi katolikker stiller alvorlige sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l ved nattverdfeiringa i de protestaniske kirkene. Jeg tenker av og til tilbake p\u00e5 fjor\u00e5ret i Roma, og akkurat n\u00e5 er det et \u00e5r siden jeg leverte [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2859","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2859","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2859"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2859\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4815,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2859\/revisions\/4815"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2859"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2859"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2859"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}