{"id":2892,"date":"2007-05-22T13:06:17","date_gmt":"2007-05-22T11:06:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/686"},"modified":"2012-03-07T17:58:12","modified_gmt":"2012-03-07T16:58:12","slug":"mer-om-ekteskap-gjengifte-og-kommunion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/05\/mer-om-ekteskap-gjengifte-og-kommunion\/","title":{"rendered":"Mer om ekteskap, gjengifte og kommunion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg var i g\u00e5r p\u00e5 en m\u00f8te i Oslo for \u00e5 l\u00e6re mer om Tribunalets arbeid. Tribunalet er den kirkelige domstolen som vurderer om oppl\u00f8ste ekteskap virkelig har v\u00e6rt sakramentale. Hvis et ekteskap viser seg \u00e5 ikke ha v\u00e6rt et sakrament, kan det kirkelig sett sees som ugyldig, og  de aktuelle personene kan inng\u00e5 et nytt kirkelig ekteskap.  Jeg skal ikke skrive direkte om dette interessante m\u00f8tet, men ta opp noe som er n\u00e6r forbundet med det: Selv om et ekteskap ikke er blitt erkl\u00e6rt sakramentalt ugyldig, har det v\u00e6rt en praksis blant noen prester \u00e5 likevel gi disse personene (som lever i et nytt sivilt ekteskap, ja til og med samboende) del i kirkens sakramenter. <\/p>\n<p>Jeg har lenge sett p\u00e5 denne praksisen som sv\u00e6rt problematisk, og jeg har merket meg at den er p\u00e5 retur i mange katolske land. Jeg hadde h\u00e5pet at praksisen var blitt helt borte blant yngre katolske prester i Norge, men jeg har i l\u00f8pet av de siste ukene forst\u00e5tt det dessverre ikke er tilfelle.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it\/dettaglio.jsp?id=73422&#038;eng=y\">En artikkel p\u00e5 det katolske nettstedet www.chiesa<\/a> tok i fjor opp nettopp dette temaet, og beskriver ganske tydelig utviklimnga fra 1970 til i dag.<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">The current rules are of relatively recent formulation, but are based upon a very severe ancient practice. In 1973, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith still admitted the \u201cprobata praxis in foro interno,\u201d or admission to the sacraments by a decision of conscience approved by one\u2019s confessor. Reception of communion by divorced and remarried Catholics was fairly widespread in the United States and in some European countries.<\/p>\n<p>Then, in 1981, came the apostolic exhortation \u201cFamiliaris Consortio,\u201d which fixed the more rigorous current discipline. But in 1993, the German bishops of the Rhine region \u2013 including two prestigious theologians, Karl Lehmann and Walter Kasper, today cardinals \u2013 expanded once again the possibility for divorced and remarried persons to receive communion: a sign that they did not see the rules established by Rome as fully convincing and binding. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which was then directed by Ratzinger, in 1994 called them back to obedience. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.vatican.va\/roman_curia\/congregations\/cfaith\/documents\/rc_con_cfaith_doc_14091994_rec-holy-comm-by-divorced_en.html\">Det aktuelle dokumentet fra Troskongregasjonen fra 1994<\/a> sier faktisk ganske tydelig at de vil stoppe denne &laquo;milde&raquo; pastorale l\u00f8sningen: <i><font color=\"#333399\"><br \/>\n3. &#8230; &#8230; In recent years, in various regions, different pastoral solutions in this area have been suggested according to which, to be sure, a general admission of divorced and remarried to Eucharistic communion would not be possible, but the divorced and remarried members of the faithfus could approach Holy Communion in specific cases when they consider themselves authorised according to a judgement of conscience to do so. This would be the case, for example, when they had been abandoned completely unjustly, although they sincerely tried to save the previous marriage, or when they are convinced of the nullity of their previous marriage, although unable to demonstrate it in the external forum or when they have gone through a long period of reflexion and penance, or also when for morally valid reasons they cannot satisfy the obligation to separate.<\/p>\n<p>In some places, it has also been proposed that in order objectively to examine their actual situation, the divorced and remarried would have to consult a prudent and expert priest. This priest, however, would have to respect their eventual decision to approach Holy Communion, without this implying an official authorisation.<\/p>\n<p>In these and similar cases it would be a matter of a tolerant and benevolent pastoral solution in order to do justice to the different situations of the divorced and remarried.<\/p>\n<p>4. Even if analogous pastoral solutions have been proposed by a few Fathers of the Church and in some measure were practiced, nevertheless these never attained the consensus of the Fathers and in no way came to constitute the common doctrine of the Church nor to determine her discipline. It falls to the universal Magisterium, in fidelity to Sacred Scripture and Tradition, to teach and to interpret authentically the depositum fidei.<\/p>\n<p>With respect to the aforementioned new pastoral proposals, this Congregation deems itself obliged therefore to recall the doctrine and discipline of the Church in this matter. In fidelity to the words of Jesus Christ, the Church affirms that a new union cannot be recognised as valid if the preceding marriage was valid. If the divorced are remarried civilly, they find themselves in a situation that objectively contravenes God&#8217;s law. Consequently, they cannot receive Holy Communion as long as this situation persists.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Likevel fortsetter en del prester \u00e5 gj\u00f8re akkurat det Troskongragasjonen sier man ikke skal gj\u00f8re &#8211; og det underer meg en hel del.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg var i g\u00e5r p\u00e5 en m\u00f8te i Oslo for \u00e5 l\u00e6re mer om Tribunalets arbeid. Tribunalet er den kirkelige domstolen som vurderer om oppl\u00f8ste ekteskap virkelig har v\u00e6rt sakramentale. Hvis et ekteskap viser seg \u00e5 ikke ha v\u00e6rt et sakrament, kan det kirkelig sett sees som ugyldig, og de aktuelle personene kan inng\u00e5 et [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2892","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-teologi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2892","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2892"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2892\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6112,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2892\/revisions\/6112"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2892"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2892"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2892"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}