{"id":2918,"date":"2007-05-31T15:00:05","date_gmt":"2007-05-31T13:00:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/713"},"modified":"2007-05-31T15:00:05","modified_gmt":"2007-05-31T13:00:05","slug":"konsekvenser-for-mennesker-som-st%c3%b8tte-anti-katolske-handlinger","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/05\/konsekvenser-for-mennesker-som-st%c3%b8tte-anti-katolske-handlinger\/","title":{"rendered":"Konsekvenser for mennesker som st\u00f8tter anti-katolske handlinger"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dette er et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l som diskuteres mye i store deler av verden, men lite i Norge. (Bortsett visse kontroverser i Den norske kirke rundt sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let om nattverdnekt for personer som utf\u00f8rer eller aktivt st\u00f8tter fri abort. Dav\u00e6rende kapellan i \u00d8ksnes, Jon Syver Norbye, er her det mest kjente eksempelet, da han i 1992 \u00f8nsket \u00e5 \u00f8ve kirketukt mot en lege som aktivt st\u00f8ttet fri abort, men ikke fikk st\u00f8tte av sin biskop.) I USA har man ganske grundig diskutert om katolske politikere som aktivt st\u00f8tter fri abort fortsatt kan motta nattverden. Og ved pavens reise til Brasil n\u00e5 nylig ble han spurt om akkurat dette, og svarte bekreftende at slike personer ikke burde motta nattverden. Dette svaret ble s\u00e5 mildnet litt av Vatikanets pressekontor, og mange syntes det var underlig at paven skulle sensureres &#8211; av Vatikanet!<\/p>\n<p>I en artikkel: <i>Catholic Politicians and Excommunication<\/i> p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.firstthings.com\/onthesquare\/?p=746\">First Things nettsider<\/a> diskuteres denne saken p\u00e5 en intelligent m\u00e5te. Det er sv\u00e6rt klargj\u00f8rende at man begynner med det moralske sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let, f\u00f8r man g\u00e5r over til kirkerettslige diskusjoner. Les selv:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">To start at the beginning, as a matter of Catholic moral theology (which is prior to any question of canon law), a Catholic who commits a grave sin separates himself from the Body of Christ and imperils his immortal soul. This applies to all grave sins of whatever nature; there is nothing special about abortion here. Until a person who commits such a sin repents and does penance, he ought not receive communion. This is because, Whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily sins against the body and blood of the Lord (1 Cor. 11:27). This is a moral prohibition in moral theology, not a legal punishment under canon law.<\/p>\n<p>Canon law becomes relevant because the Church has chosen to impose penalties for certain forms of wrongdoing in order to create additional incentives for the offender to repent. Such is the primary purpose even of the extreme penalty of excommunication, which denies the subject person access to the sacraments. Now, the Church generally imposes such canonical penalties as the result of a judicial process, much as the state imposes a term of imprisonment through the sentence of a judge. &#8230; &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The issue of excommunication persists, however, because canon law treats abortion much more severely than most other kinds of wrongdoing. It imposes on the canonical crime of procuring an abortion a so-called latae sententiae excommunication (canon 1398). An excommunication latae sententiae attaches to the offender merely because he has performed the prohibited action and without any judicial action by the Church\u2014indeed without any further action by anyone whatsoever. The penalty is imposed automatically, or, as an American lawyer might say, by operation of law. Ecclesiastical authority will, at most, take note of the fact that the wrongdoer has incurred the penalty. That is precisely what the Mexican bishops were doing when they said that the legislators voting to legalize abortion had excommunicated themselves, and this is what Pope Benedict was acknowledging as well, at least until the Vatican Secretariat of State decided that, although Pilate wrote what he wrote, Benedict didn\u2019t say what he said.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dette er et sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l som diskuteres mye i store deler av verden, men lite i Norge. (Bortsett visse kontroverser i Den norske kirke rundt sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5let om nattverdnekt for personer som utf\u00f8rer eller aktivt st\u00f8tter fri abort. Dav\u00e6rende kapellan i \u00d8ksnes, Jon Syver Norbye, er her det mest kjente eksempelet, da han i 1992 \u00f8nsket \u00e5 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2918","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generelt","category-katolsk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2918","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2918"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2918\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2918"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2918"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2918"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}