{"id":2932,"date":"2007-06-05T18:26:11","date_gmt":"2007-06-05T16:26:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/727"},"modified":"2016-03-08T20:28:34","modified_gmt":"2016-03-08T19:28:34","slug":"hvordan-bor-messen-feires-nar-kommer-de-nye-reglene-om-den-tridentinske-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/06\/hvordan-bor-messen-feires-nar-kommer-de-nye-reglene-om-den-tridentinske-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Hvordan b\u00f8r messen feires? N\u00e5r kommer de nye reglene om den tridentinske messen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg fikk f\u00f8lgende sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l ang. bloggen min i dag:<br \/>\n<i>&laquo;Beskjed: Det skrives for tiden mye internasjonalt om pavens kommende &laquo;Motu proprio&raquo; om tillatelse til \u00e5 feire Tridentinermessen. En gang det passer, kunne du ikke ta opp dette temaet. I Norge er vi vel forn\u00f8yd med den messen vi har &#8230;?&raquo;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Ang. pavens nye regler (som jeg har <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/556\">nevnt litt om f\u00f8r<\/a>) er det n\u00e5 blitt spekulert nesten hver uke at den skulle komme, i et halvt \u00e5r! Men det har n\u00e5 blitt bekreftet at den kommer (fra nest h\u00f8yeste hold, se under), men jeg tenkte jeg skulle nevne nyheten n\u00e5r dokumentet endelig ble offentlig. Om messen feires slik den b\u00f8r i Norge (bare delvis, syns jeg), skal jeg komme tilbake til om en dag eller to, men jeg kan nevne at jeg etter p\u00e5ske i \u00e5r begynte \u00e5 feire massen p\u00e5 latin n\u00e5r jeg feirer den aleine &#8211;  den nye messen p\u00e5 latin, den gamle, tridentisnke messen vet jeg sv\u00e6rt lite om s\u00e5 langt.<\/p>\n<p>Her er de <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2007\/06\/card-bertone-in-avvenire-about-1962-missale-mp\/\">siste nyhetene jeg har lest<\/a> om pavens Motu proprio om den tridentinske messen, fra s\u00f8ndag 3\/6:<br \/>\n<i><font color=\"#333399\">In Avvenire the official newspaper of the Italian Bishops Conference, today, H.E. Tarcisio Card. Bertone has an interview.  He spoke mainly about the Pope\u2019s latest trip to Brasil and the flap about the &laquo;excommunication&raquo; regarding pro-abortion politicians in Mexico.  ..  At the very end, the Cardinal Secretary of State said (my translation):<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; And the long-anticipated Motu Proprio which would derestrict the use of the so-called Missale of St. Pius V, at what point is it?<\/p>\n<p>I believe we won\u2019t have to wait much longer to see it published.  The Pope is personally interested that this happen.  He will explain it in his accompanying letter, hoping for a serene reception.<\/p>\n<p>Okay.<\/p>\n<p>1) It is done.<br \/>\n2) It is going to happen.<br \/>\n3) The Pope is preparing, or has prepared a letter to come along with the Motu Proprio.<br \/>\n4) It is going to happen despite the knowledge that there will be resistence.<br \/>\n<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg fikk f\u00f8lgende sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l ang. bloggen min i dag: &laquo;Beskjed: Det skrives for tiden mye internasjonalt om pavens kommende &laquo;Motu proprio&raquo; om tillatelse til \u00e5 feire Tridentinermessen. En gang det passer, kunne du ikke ta opp dette temaet. I Norge er vi vel forn\u00f8yd med den messen vi har &#8230;?&raquo; Ang. pavens nye regler (som [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2932","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2932","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2932"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2932\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":10722,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2932\/revisions\/10722"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2932"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2932"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2932"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}