{"id":3043,"date":"2007-08-07T18:01:33","date_gmt":"2007-08-07T16:01:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/841"},"modified":"2012-03-07T18:28:23","modified_gmt":"2012-03-07T17:28:23","slug":"mer-fra-paveaudiensen-26-november-1969","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/08\/mer-fra-paveaudiensen-26-november-1969\/","title":{"rendered":"Mer fra paveaudiensen 26. november 1969"},"content":{"rendered":"

Jeg leser n\u00e5 ei bok som presenterer tradisjonalistiske katolikkers argumenter imot det de kaller ny-katolikkene (=alle som bruker den nye liturgien). Boka heter «The Great Facade<\/strong>. Vatican II and the Regime of Novelty in the Roman Catholic Church», og jeg syns bare den delvis har ovebevisende argumenter. Den siterer bl.a. en del ting kardinal Ratzinger sa fra 70-tallet og utover (om hvordan enkelte ting fra Vatikankonsilet har blir videref\u00f8rt p\u00e5 en d\u00e5rlig m\u00e5te eller blitt misforst\u00e5tt), men jeg syns ikke forfatterne klarer \u00e5 v\u00e6re s\u00e5 overbevisende n\u00e5r de g\u00e5r langt forbi Ratzinger i sin kritikk.<\/p>\n

Men boka har vist til Pave Paul VI’s onsdagsaudiens rett f\u00f8r innf\u00f8ringa av den nye liturgien – der paven tydelig sier at dette er noe helt nytt (alts\u00e5 ikke en naturlig revisjon\/ videref\u00f8ring), og noe som nok kommer til \u00e5 oppr\u00f8re mange, b\u00e5de lekfolk og prester. Hvorfor gj\u00f8r man s\u00e5 dette? For \u00e5 oppfylle bestemmelsene fra Vatikankonsilet (men de ba vel ikke om en s\u00e5 dramatisk forandring?), og for \u00e5 hjelpe lekfolket til \u00e5 delta mye mer aktivt i messefeiringa. (Men han sier lite om hvorfor det var n\u00f8dvendig eller klokt \u00e5 ta ta borte s\u00e5 mye av h\u00f8ytideligheten og helligheten i messefeiringa – syns jeg.)<\/p>\n

Her er en hel del av pave Paul VI’s argumentasjon:<\/p>\n

1. We ask you to turn your minds once more to the liturgical innovation of the new rite of the Mass. This new rite will be introduced into our celebration of the holy Sacrifice starting from Sunday next which is the first of Advent, November 30 [in Italy].<\/p>\n

2. A new rite of the Mass: a change in a venerable tradition that has gone on for centuries. This is something that affects our hereditary religious patrimony, which seemed to enjoy the privilege of being untouchable and settled. It seemed to bring the prayer of our forefathers and our saints to our lips and to give us the comfort of feeling faithful to our spiritual past, which we kept alive to pass it on to the generations ahead.<\/p>\n

3. It is at such a moment as this that we get a better understanding of the value of historical tradition and the communion of the saints. This change will affect the ceremonies of the Mass. We shall become aware, perhaps with some feeling of annoyance, that the ceremonies at the altar are no longer being carried out with the same words and gestures to which we were accustomed – perhaps so much accustomed that we no longer took any notice of them. This change also touches the faithful. It is intended to interest each one of those present, to draw them out of their customary personal devotions or their usual torpor.<\/p>\n

4. We must prepare for this many-sided inconvenience. It is the kind of upset caused by every novelty that breaks in on our habits. We shall notice that pious persons are disturbed most, because they have their own respectable way of hearing Mass, and they will feel shaken out of their usual thoughts and obliged to follow those of others. Even priests may feel some annoyance in this respect.<\/p>\n

5. So what is to be done on this special and historical occasion? First of all, we must prepare ourselves. This novelty is no small thing. We should not let ourselves be surprised by the nature, or even the nuisance, of its exterior forms. As intelligent persons and conscientious faithful we should find out as much as we can about this innovation. It will not be hard to do so, because of the many fine efforts being made by the Church and by publishers. As We said on another occasion, we shall do well to take into account the motives for this grave change. The first is obedience to the Council<\/strong>. That obedience now implies obedience to the Bishops, who interpret the Council’s prescription and put them into practice. <\/font><\/i> <\/p>\n

6. This first reason is not simply canonical – relating to an external precept. It is connected with the charism of the liturgical act. In other words, it is linked with the power and efficacy of the Church’s prayer, the most authoritative utterance of which comes from the Bishop. This is also true of priests, who help the Bishop in his ministry, and like him act in persona Christi (cf. St. Ign., ad Eph. I, V). It is Christ’s will, it is the breath of the Holy Spirit which calls the Church to make this change. A prophetic moment is occurring in the mystical body of Christ, which is the Church. This moment is shaking the Church, arousing it, obliging it to renew the mysterious art of its prayer.<\/p>\n

7. The other reason for the reform is this renewal of prayer. It is aimed at associating the assembly of the faithful more closely and more effectively with the official rite, that of the Word and that of the Eucharistic Sacrifice, that constitutes the Mass. For the faithful are also invested with the «royal priesthood»; that is, they are qualified to have supernatural conversation with God. … …<\/p>\n

15. … the fundamental outline of the Mass is still the traditional one, not only theologically but also spiritually. Indeed, if the rite is carried out as it ought to be, the spiritual aspect will be found to have greater richness. The greater simplicity of the ceremonies, the variety and abundance of scriptural texts, the joint acts of the ministers, the silences which will mark various deeper moments in the rite, will all help to bring this out.<\/p>\n

16. But two indispensable requirements above all will make that richness clear: a profound participation<\/strong> by every single one present, and an outpouring of spirit in community charity<\/strong>. These requirements will help to make the Mass more than ever a school of spiritual depth and a peaceful but demanding school of Christian sociology. The soul’s relationship with Christ and with the brethren thus attains new and vital intensity. Christ, the victim and the priest, renews and offers up his redeeming sacrifice through the ministry of the Church in the symbolic rite of his last supper. He leaves us his body and blood under the appearances of bread and wine, for our personal and spiritual nourishment, for our fusion in the unity of his redeeming love and his immortal life.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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