{"id":3098,"date":"2007-09-12T07:05:39","date_gmt":"2007-09-12T05:05:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/897"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:29:11","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:29:11","slug":"kan-moderne-lovsangsmusikk-brukes-i-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/09\/kan-moderne-lovsangsmusikk-brukes-i-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Kan moderne lovsangsmusikk brukes i messen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Ganske nylig sa en ung katolikk til meg, at han ikke syntes at den musikken som tradisjonelt gjelder for moderne og ungdomsvennlig i Den katolske kirke i Norge (musikk mest fra 70-tallet), var s\u00e6rlig interessant. Og for noen f\u00e5 \u00e5r siden var jeg til stede p\u00e5 ei stor samling i Norges Unge Katolikker, og opplevde (til min forskrekkelse) at de hadde begynt \u00e5 synge moderne serkt f\u00f8lelsesmessig\/karismatisk musikk, men l\u00f8ftede hender etc.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg var selv ung p\u00e5 70-tallet og har ogs\u00e5 v\u00e6rt litt borti den karismatiske bevegelsen, men jeg m\u00e5 si at jeg ikke har s\u00e6rlig interesse for denne typen musikk n\u00e5 lenger, og heller ikke syns den passer til den typen tilbedelse som messen innbyr til. I messen er det gregoriansk sang eller annen sakral musikk som gjelder, og det fikk jeg bekreftet i en artikkel jeg nettopp leste, der musikkprofessor Dr. Susan Treacy intervjues. Hun sier:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">After my conversion to Christ there was a time right before I became Catholic when I tolerated, out of obedience and without total enthusiam, the pop-style music that has dominated the post-Vatican II Church. However, since I was not yet Catholic, I never actually had to endure it in church. Actually, one reason I postponed entering the Church was because of my ambivalence towards the music and liturgy found in typical Catholic parishes.<\/p>\n<p>In your experience and in your professional opinion, is charismatic music and the instruments it makes use of suited to a truly Catholic liturgy?<\/p>\n<p>No. <\/font><\/i><!--more--><i><font color=\"#333399\">They are eminently suitable for personal use, or for a prayer meeting or a festival of praise, but they have no place in Catholic liturgy, which is solemn and sacred. If one truly understands the Faith and the liturgy through the Church&#8217;s eyes, he will see this. As Catholics we believe that the Holy Spirit speaks through the Church, therefore we should be yearning to do what our Mother asks and to love what She loves.<\/p>\n<p>In your professional opinion, has the Church in terms of practical effect essentially spurned Sacred Music in the last 42 years?<\/p>\n<p>Theoretically the Church has never spurned sacred music, but in terms of practical effect it would seem that this has happened.<\/p>\n<p>Are there any documents that support the use of piano, guitar or bongos at modern celebrations of liturgy?<\/p>\n<p>Not that I know of. The documents, from Vatican II to the GIRM 2003, do not recommend these instruments, but the documents are somewhat ambiguously worded, so that proponents of these instruments could rationalize their use. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/athanasiuscm.blogspot.com\/2007\/09\/summorum-pontificum-notes-music.html\">Les hele artikkelen her<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Ganske nylig sa en ung katolikk til meg, at han ikke syntes at den musikken som tradisjonelt gjelder for moderne og ungdomsvennlig i Den katolske kirke i Norge (musikk mest fra 70-tallet), var s\u00e6rlig interessant. Og for noen f\u00e5 \u00e5r siden var jeg til stede p\u00e5 ei stor samling i Norges Unge Katolikker, og opplevde [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3098","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3098","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3098"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3098\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5619,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3098\/revisions\/5619"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3098"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3098"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3098"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}