{"id":3108,"date":"2007-09-17T15:07:19","date_gmt":"2007-09-17T13:07:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/908"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:04:17","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:04:17","slug":"siste-rapporter-om-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2007\/09\/siste-rapporter-om-den-tradisjonelle-latinske-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Siste rapporter om den tradisjonelle latinske messen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/bisk_finn.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p>Bilder viser biskop Robert W. Finn fra Kansas City som feirer den tradisjonelle latinske messen 14. september.<\/p>\n<p>Jeg m\u00e5 nok si at jeg m\u00f8ter noks\u00e5 lite interesse for den tradisjonelle latinske messen fra prester i Norge s\u00e5 langt. Det virker nesten som de ikke er s\u00e5 interesserte i hvor verdig, \u00e6rb\u00f8dig eller hengivent messen feires, eller (hvis keg tolker det litt mer vennlig) at de rett og slett ikke ser at messefeiring er et tema man kan v\u00e6re opptatt av &#8211; siden de syns messen feires ganske greit her i Norge.<\/p>\n<p>I alle tilfeller, 14. september er kommet og g\u00e5tt, og rundt om i den katolske verden skjer det en del ting, bl.a. har noen biskoper selv feiret den gamle messen (se bildet), mens andre pr\u00f8ver \u00e5 begrense prestenes rett til \u00e5 feire denne messen, i alle fall til de har best\u00e5tt en &#8216;eksamen&#8217;. Men p\u00e5 Catholic World News leste jeg nylig <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cwnews.com\/news\/viewstory.cfm?recnum=53525\">en artikkel som kommenterer akkurat det<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><i>&laquo;Fra n\u00e5 av kan en prest selv bestemme om han vil bruke den gamle formen n\u00e5r han feirer messe, uten \u00e5 sp\u00f8rre paven eller biskopen om lov.&raquo; Dette sier kardinal Dario Castrillon-Hoyos, president i kommisjonen Ecclesia Dei, som skal sjekke hvordan pavens motu proprio blir etterfulgt.<\/i><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\"> (Last Thursday he) explained that Pope Benedict&#8217;s motu proprio affirms the right of any priest to use the &laquo;extraordinary form&raquo; of the Latin liturgy. &laquo;It is, therefore, uncessary to ask for any other permission,&raquo; he said.<\/p>\n<p>Some diocesan bishops have cautioned their priests against using the 1962 Missal without explicit permission from the diocese. But the president of the Ecclesia Dei commission &#8211; which would hear any appeals regarding the new liturgical rules <i><font color=\"#333399\">&#8211; contradicted that notion in his Vatican Radio appearance. While affirming the bishop&#8217;s authority to resolve any liturgical conflicts within his diocese, the Colombian cardinal said that the bishop should exercise that power &laquo;without negating the right that the Pope has given to the entire Church.&raquo;<\/p>\n<p>Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos said that the motu proprio involves &laquo;no big change&raquo; in the liturgy of the Roman Church, since the older liturgy was never banned. Vatican II affirmed the freedoms of the faithful, he said, and one such freedom, which Pope Benedict has now confirmed, was access to the older liturgical form.<\/p>\n<p>&laquo;Nothing is imposed on anyone&raquo; by Summorum Pontificum, the cardinal said. In allowing for greater use of the old Missal, he explained, Pope Benedict is merely &laquo;opening a possibility to the faithful who request it.&raquo; <\/font><\/i><\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bilder viser biskop Robert W. Finn fra Kansas City som feirer den tradisjonelle latinske messen 14. september. Jeg m\u00e5 nok si at jeg m\u00f8ter noks\u00e5 lite interesse for den tradisjonelle latinske messen fra prester i Norge s\u00e5 langt. Det virker nesten som de ikke er s\u00e5 interesserte i hvor verdig, \u00e6rb\u00f8dig eller hengivent messen feires, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3108","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-tlm"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3108","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3108"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3108\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5133,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3108\/revisions\/5133"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3108"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3108"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3108"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}