{"id":3357,"date":"2008-03-16T17:25:45","date_gmt":"2008-03-16T16:25:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1158"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:28:23","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:28:23","slug":"defor-trenger-vi-pave-benedikts-brev-om-den-gamle-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/03\/defor-trenger-vi-pave-benedikts-brev-om-den-gamle-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"Derfor trenger vi pave Benedikts brev om den gamle messen"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>P\u00e5 YOUTUBE er det lagt ut videoer av den avsluttende messen &#8211; med kardinal Mahony &#8211; p\u00e5 den \u00e5rlige store kateketsamlingen i Los Angles, USA. For f\u00f8lsomme lesere vil det sikkert v\u00e6re et sjokk \u00e5 se en messe feieret p\u00e5 en slik m\u00e5te; hele stemningen og sanegn\/musikken er &laquo;moderne&raquo; og underlig, det er 20 glassmugger med vin p\u00e5 alteret, Kristi blod t\u00f8mmes fra glassmuggene opp i glass&raquo;kalker&raquo; (forbudt), det er mye &laquo;liturgisk dans&raquo; etc.<\/p>\n<p>Et av poengene med pavens Motu proprio var \u00e5 influere ogs\u00e5 feiringen av den nye messen &#8211; det er det tydeligvis behov for. (Klikk p\u00e5 hver video for \u00e5 se den. Jeg har f\u00e5tt lenkene fra <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2008\/03\/video-of-the-liturgy-from-the-three-days-of-darkness-or-why-we-needed-summorum-pontificum\/\">Father Z<\/a> &#8211; der er det ogs\u00e5 mange kommentarer.)<\/p>\n<p>Del 1:<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed\"><object width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/c5TgtFI0abw\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/c5TgtFI0abw\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p>Del 2:<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed\"><object width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/HcnCGNdkHRY\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/HcnCGNdkHRY\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p>Del 3:<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed\"><object width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/aElVttbovFA\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/aElVttbovFA\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p>Del 4:<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed\"><object width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/NhMvrY_gu0k\"><\/param><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"transparent\"><\/param><embed src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/NhMvrY_gu0k\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" wmode=\"transparent\" width=\"425\" height=\"350\"><\/embed><\/object><\/div>\n<p>Her er et par kommentarer fra Father Z.&#8217;s blog: <!--more--><br \/>\n<i><font color=\"#333399\"> 1<br \/>\nOk, ladies and gentlemen I have a confession to mak &#8230;  I thought you guys were making it up with the degree of liturgical abuses, however I have saw the horror and I am truly stunned. I would like to know if you should even go up to receive communion when you feel that everything was all wrong. I am blessed to never have seen such nonsense in the New York Archdiocese. This is a nightmare of the worse order. I would have loved to seen our Holy Father\u2019s face if he saw this video. &#8230; Unbelievible but it took me to see it with my own eyes to believe the tales and see the horror.<\/p>\n<p>2<br \/>\nI was at that mass. I took some good things away from the congress workshops, but several of my friends had brushes with theology that was just plain wrong, and the liturgies were painful. I spent a lot of time with my eyes shut trying to just focus of Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>I hear there were about 40,000 people at REC this year. I would guess, from crowd reactions and some conversations I had, that the vast majority just LOVED this nonsense. That, to give my gut response to the question several have asked, is how this stuff keeps happening.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>P\u00e5 YOUTUBE er det lagt ut videoer av den avsluttende messen &#8211; med kardinal Mahony &#8211; p\u00e5 den \u00e5rlige store kateketsamlingen i Los Angles, USA. For f\u00f8lsomme lesere vil det sikkert v\u00e6re et sjokk \u00e5 se en messe feieret p\u00e5 en slik m\u00e5te; hele stemningen og sanegn\/musikken er &laquo;moderne&raquo; og underlig, det er 20 glassmugger [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3357","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3357","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3357"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3357\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5551,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3357\/revisions\/5551"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3357"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3357"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3357"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}