{"id":3417,"date":"2008-04-16T22:51:11","date_gmt":"2008-04-16T20:51:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1220"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:27:50","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:27:50","slug":"er-det-darlig-liturgi-eller-feil-filosofi-som-har-skadet-den-katolske-kirke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/04\/er-det-darlig-liturgi-eller-feil-filosofi-som-har-skadet-den-katolske-kirke\/","title":{"rendered":"Er det d\u00e5rlig liturgi eller feil filosofi som har skadet Den katolske kirke?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J., ganske kjent i USA for sitt TV-program p\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ewtn.com\">EWTN<\/a>, har nettopp <a href=\"http:\/\/archive.constantcontact.com\/fs059\/1101854472685\/archive\/1102040153349.html\">skrevet et stykke<\/a> som er sv\u00e6rt negativt til de liberale gruppene innenfor Kirken; disse kan aldri bringe liv og framtid, sier han.<\/p>\n<p>Han skriver ogs\u00e5 en hel del om den gamle og den nye liturgien, men han vil ikke v\u00e6re med p\u00e5 at det er den nye liturgien i seg selv som har skadet Kirken, for liturgien er selv et resultat av \u00f8deleggende filosofiske systemer som vokste fram utover 1900-tallet. Slik skriver han:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">Some people think that since the Novus Ordo was created, it has been the cause of confusion for Catholics. I do not think that the Novus Ordo is itself the cause of the problem but rather the occasion for the abuses that have occurred. I believe, rather, that the problem began with the priests and religious, plus many lay people, who so accepted the post-war philosophies, especially existentialism and, for some, Marxism, that the Catholic Faith and their commitment to Jesus Christ the Son of God and Redeemer were replaced with a humanistic set of assumptions. The faith needed to be judged by the standards of philosophy rather than judge philosophy by the standards of the Faith. Add to this the social turmoil of the 1960&#8217;s, when all institutions were treated as suspect, at best. The liturgy became an occasion to express ideology and politics. Furthermore, the teaching of catechism was seriously compromised after 1968, so people were not being taught the Faith. In such a context, everything new seemed to be acceptable, even though the instinct of faith went contrary to the nonsense. The heterodox Catholic progressives had the dynamic force from the 1960&#8217;s into the 1980&#8217;s.<\/p>\n<p>That situation is changing, in some ways for the better. The left is aging and has no young followers to push its agenda. The young either become apathetic about a faith emptied of its truth and power through the progressive agenda, or they become orthodox. I describe the heterodox liberals as spiritual geldings and spays; they have removed the essentials of their faith and cannot reproduce, bringing in neither converts nor vocations. &#8230; &#8230;<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Denne artikkelen er ogs\u00e5 <a href=\"http:\/\/thenewliturgicalmovement.blogspot.com\/2008\/04\/fr-mitch-pacwa-sj-on-liturgy.html\">diskutert p\u00e5 the New Liturgical Movement<\/a>, og har der for\u00e5rsaket mange kommentarer.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Fr. Mitch Pacwa, S.J., ganske kjent i USA for sitt TV-program p\u00e5 EWTN, har nettopp skrevet et stykke som er sv\u00e6rt negativt til de liberale gruppene innenfor Kirken; disse kan aldri bringe liv og framtid, sier han. Han skriver ogs\u00e5 en hel del om den gamle og den nye liturgien, men han vil ikke v\u00e6re [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3417","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-katolsk","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3417","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3417"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3417\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5533,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3417\/revisions\/5533"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3417"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3417"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3417"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}