{"id":3467,"date":"2008-05-18T14:01:45","date_gmt":"2008-05-18T12:01:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1267"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:27:47","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:27:47","slug":"nar-b%c3%b8r-det-v%c3%a6re-stille-under-messen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/05\/nar-b%c3%b8r-det-v%c3%a6re-stille-under-messen\/","title":{"rendered":"N\u00e5r b\u00f8r det v\u00e6re stille under messen?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Erkebiskop Coleridge i Australia, <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/1266\">som jeg skrev om for noen dager siden<\/a>, skriver ogs\u00e5 i sitt dokument om n\u00e5r man skal\/b\u00f8r v\u00e6re stille i messen, der skriver han:<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">The Roman Rite presupposes seven silences:<\/p>\n<p>1) before the Act of Penitence<br \/>\n2) before the Collect (after the celebrant\u2019s call to prayer)<br \/>\n3) after the First Reading and before the Psalm,<br \/>\n4) after the Second Reading and before the Gospel Acclamation<br \/>\n5) after the Homily<br \/>\n6) during the Intercessions (after the intention is announced and before \u201cLord, hear us\u201d)<br \/>\n7) after Holy Communion<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Her m\u00e5 jeg innr\u00f8mme at jeg ikke er helt p\u00e5 b\u00f8lgelengde med erkebiskopen; noen av disse &laquo;stillhetene&raquo; er jo veldig korte, og \u00e5 ha stillhet etter hver av lesningene syns jeg ikke fungerer s\u00e5 godt. I den gamle messen er det mye stillhet (positivt syns mange) fordi presten sier flere b\u00f8nner stille &#8211; og noe av dette kan ogs\u00e5 v\u00e6re stille i den nye messen, bl.a. offertorieb\u00f8nnene.<\/p>\n<p>I GIRM no. 45 kan vi lese om viktigheten av stillhet; f\u00f8r messen og etter kommunion er det alltid viktig med stillhet (syns jeg) og noen ganger fungerer det ogs\u00e5 godt etter prekenen, men stadige sm\u00e5 pauser i messen syns jeg faktisk ikke er s\u00e5 nyttige.<br \/>\n<i><font color=\"#333399\">&#8230;  at the conclusion of a reading or the Homily, all meditate briefly on what they have heard; then after Communion, they praise and pray to God in their hearts. Even before the celebration itself, it is commendable that silence be observed in the church, in the sacristy, in the vesting room, and in adjacent areas, so that all may dispose themselves to carry out the sacred action in a devout and fitting manner.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Erkebiskop Coleridge i Australia, som jeg skrev om for noen dager siden, skriver ogs\u00e5 i sitt dokument om n\u00e5r man skal\/b\u00f8r v\u00e6re stille i messen, der skriver han: The Roman Rite presupposes seven silences: 1) before the Act of Penitence 2) before the Collect (after the celebrant\u2019s call to prayer) 3) after the First Reading [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3467","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3467","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3467"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3467\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5508,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3467\/revisions\/5508"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3467"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3467"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3467"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}