{"id":3487,"date":"2008-06-01T16:04:44","date_gmt":"2008-06-01T14:04:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1290"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:27:46","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:27:46","slug":"med-spyttebakk-pa-preikestolen-tidleg-1800-tal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/06\/med-spyttebakk-pa-preikestolen-tidleg-1800-tal\/","title":{"rendered":"Med spyttebakk p\u00e5 preikestolen – tidleg 1800-tal"},"content":{"rendered":"

Pater Arnfinn er fortsatt i Roma, og for \u00e5 l\u00e6ra meir om kardinal Newman bes\u00f8ker han \u201dKeats and Shelley House\u201d ved Spansketrappa og det romerske Newman-instituttet, i Via Aurelia, bak Vatikanet. Der har han bl.a. funne denne informasjonen om den anglikanskje kyrkja p\u00e5 starten av 1800-talet:<\/p>\n

Den offisielle, anglikanske kyrkja var prega av \u201dapathy and irreverence\u201d; prestane var ofte ikkje teologar, men klassisk utdanna (antikkens spr\u00e5k og litteratur); ein lat overklasse, lite motiverte for den \u00e5ndelege og pastorale tenesta.<\/p>\n

Og gl\u00f8ym det du assosierer med anglikanisme i ein seinare fase: med liturgisk, \u201dkatolsk\u201d h\u00f8gtid, vakker song etc\u2026 I ei vanleg landsens kyrkje var det ofte ein sv\u00e6r tre-dekka preikestol midt i kord\u00f8ra, \u201daltaret\u201d var eit stusseleg bord i det fjerne; der var det gjerne blekkhus og penn til underteikning av attestar og dokument (eit lite prestekontor!) eller det tente som garderobebord for kyrkjelydens hattar, pledd, k\u00e5per, frakkar og paraplyar. I d\u00f8ypefonten kunne det ligge skureb\u00f8rstar og golvtvoger (s\u00e5 det var vaskekottet!), men det var ikkje s\u00e5 f\u00e5rleg, for \u2013hald deg fast \u2013 ofte vart det ikkje nytta vatn ved d\u00e5pen!!<\/p>\n

Dette viser ogs\u00e5 at den statskyrkjelege forslappinga gjekk saman med den markerte, l\u00e5gkyrkjelege protestantismen som alltid har vore ein del av anglikanismen (meir calvinsk enn luthersk) …<\/p>\n

\u201dAltar\u201d var eigentleg forbode, ein tala om \u201dcommunion table\u201d, og presten stod for enden (nordenden), alts\u00e5 ikkje austvendt, og heller ikkje vendt mot folket; han skulle ikkje st\u00e5 midt for altaret \u2013 for d\u00e5 kunne det vere uttrykk for \u201dpopery\u201d … <\/i><\/p>\n

Les vidare her<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Pater Arnfinn er fortsatt i Roma, og for \u00e5 l\u00e6ra meir om kardinal Newman bes\u00f8ker han \u201dKeats and Shelley House\u201d ved Spansketrappa og det romerske Newman-instituttet, i Via Aurelia, bak Vatikanet. Der har han bl.a. funne denne informasjonen om den anglikanskje kyrkja p\u00e5 starten av 1800-talet: Den offisielle, anglikanske kyrkja var prega av \u201dapathy and […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3487","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-generelt","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3487","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3487"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3487\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5500,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3487\/revisions\/5500"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3487"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3487"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3487"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}