{"id":3604,"date":"2008-08-29T11:17:44","date_gmt":"2008-08-29T09:17:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1411"},"modified":"2012-02-13T10:53:24","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T09:53:24","slug":"mer-om-broder-rogers-forhold-til-den-katolske-kirke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/08\/mer-om-broder-rogers-forhold-til-den-katolske-kirke\/","title":{"rendered":"Mer om broder Rogers forhold til den katolske kirke"},"content":{"rendered":"

I L’Osservatore Romano ble det 15. august trykt et intervju med kardinal Walter Kasper om Taiz\u00e9’s grunnlegger Roger Schutz. Kardinalen ble der spurt om broder Rogers forhold til den katolske kirke; konverte han og ble katolikk? – Jeg har skrevet om dette litt tidligere, HER<\/a>, HER<\/a> og HER<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Jeg syns ikke intervjuet gir noe klart svar p\u00e5 de kirkerettslige sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5lene rundt broder Roger, men det bekrefter at man gjorde et unntak i hans tilfelle. Han var i full kommunion med Den katolske Kirke, samtidig som han ikke forlot sitt tidligere kirkesamfunn. Her er ett av sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5lene i intervjuet, og kardinalen sgrundige svar:<\/p>\n

Q: Brother Roger often described his ecumenical journey as an \u201cinner reconciliation of the faith of his origins with the Mystery of the Catholic faith, without breaking fellowship with anyone.\u201d This road does not belong to the usual categories. After his death, the Taiz\u00e9 Community denied the rumors of a secret conversion to Catholicism. One of the reasons those rumors arose was because Brother Roger had been seen receiving communion at the hands of Cardinal Ratzinger during the funeral Mass of Pope John Paul II. What should we think about the statement that Brother Roger became \u201cformally\u201d Catholic?<\/p>\n

A: Born in a Reformed family, Brother Roger had studied theology and had become a pastor in that same Reformed tradition. When he spoke of \u201cthe faith of his origins,\u201d he was referring to that beautiful blend of catechesis, devotion, theological formation and Christian witness received in the Reformed tradition. He shared that patrimony with all his brothers and sisters of Protestant affiliation, with whom he always felt himself deeply linked. Since his early years as a pastor, however, Brother Roger sought at the same time to nourish his faith and his spiritual life at the wellsprings of other Christian traditions, crossing certain confessional limits in doing so. His desire to follow a monastic vocation and to found for this purpose a new monastic community with Christians of the Reformation already said a lot about this search of his. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

As the years passed, the faith of the prior of Taiz\u00e9 was progressively enriched by the patrimony of faith of the Catholic Church. According to his own testimony, it was with reference to the mystery of the Catholic faith that he understood some of the elements of the faith, such as the role of the Virgin Mary in salvation history, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharistic gifts and the apostolic ministry in the Church, including the ministry of unity exercised by the Bishop of Rome. In response to this, the Catholic Church had accepted that he take communion at the Eucharist, as he did every morning in the large church at Taiz\u00e9. Brother Roger also received communion several times from the hands of Pope John Paul II, who had become friends with him from the days of the Second Vatican Council and who was well acquainted with his personal journey with respect to the Catholic Church. In this sense, there was nothing secret or hidden in the attitude of the Catholic Church, neither at Taiz\u00e9 or in Rome. During the funeral of Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger only repeated what had already been done before him in Saint Peter\u2019s Basilica, at the time of the late Pope. There was nothing new or premeditated in the Cardinal\u2019s act.<\/p>\n

In a talk he gave in the presence of Pope John Paul II in Saint Peter\u2019s Basilica during the young adult European meeting in Rome in 1980, the prior of Taiz\u00e9 described his own personal journey and his Christian identity with these words: \u201cI have found my own Christian identity by reconciling within myself the faith of my origins with the Mystery of the Catholic faith, without breaking fellowship with anyone.\u201d In fact, Brother Roger never wanted to break \u201cwith anyone,\u201d for reasons which were essentially linked to his own desire for unity and to the ecumenical vocation of the Taiz\u00e9 Community. For that reason, he preferred not to use certain expressions like \u201cconversion\u201d or \u201cformal\u201d membership to describe his communion with the Catholic Church. In his conscience, he had entered into the mystery of the Catholic faith like someone who grows into it, without having to \u201cabandon\u201d or \u201cbreak\u201d with what he had received and lived beforehand. The meaning of some theological or canonical terms could be discussed endlessly. Out of respect for the faith-journey of Brother Roger, however, it would be preferable not to apply to him categories which he himself considered inappropriate for his experience and which, moreover, the Catholic Church never wanted to impose upon him. Here too, the words of Brother Roger himself should suffice for us. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

Les hele intervjuet hos www.chiesa<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

I L’Osservatore Romano ble det 15. august trykt et intervju med kardinal Walter Kasper om Taiz\u00e9’s grunnlegger Roger Schutz. Kardinalen ble der spurt om broder Rogers forhold til den katolske kirke; konverte han og ble katolikk? – Jeg har skrevet om dette litt tidligere, HER, HER og HER. Jeg syns ikke intervjuet gir noe klart […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[14],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3604","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-okumenikk"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3604","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3604"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3604\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4725,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3604\/revisions\/4725"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3604"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3604"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3604"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}