{"id":3685,"date":"2008-10-15T11:16:17","date_gmt":"2008-10-15T09:16:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1491"},"modified":"2012-02-13T10:53:21","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T09:53:21","slug":"falske-rykter-omat-paven-skulle-ha-renvasket-martin-luther","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2008\/10\/falske-rykter-omat-paven-skulle-ha-renvasket-martin-luther\/","title":{"rendered":"Falske rykter om at paven skulle ha renvasket Martin Luther"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>V\u00e5rt Land trykket i dag et langt intervju med kardinal Kasper, og <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vl.no\/kristenliv\/article3851044.ece\">p\u00e5 nettsidene har de et kortere og noks\u00e5 annerledes vinklet stykke<\/a>, der det bl.a. sp\u00f8rres:<\/p>\n<p><i>&laquo;Men det ble i mars sagt at Paven renvasker Luther. Hva er dette?<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Det er falske rykter. Det er riktig at det blir gjort ny forskning om Luther. Men avisene misforsto dette. Ny forskning kan differensiere bildet, men vi kan ikke fjerne det han sa om paved\u00f8mmet og gudstjenesten. Dette var veldig harde og sterke ord. Men om Martin Luther er i himmelen eller ikke \u2013 det er i Guds hender, og opp til ham \u00e5 bestemme.&raquo; <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Videre forteller kardinalen at katolikkers syn p\u00e5 Luther har forandra seg til en viss grad, men ikke p\u00e5 de avgj\u00f8rende punkter:<br \/>\n<i>VL: Martin Luther ble lyst i bann etter at han talte Roma midt i mot p\u00e5 grunn av avlatshandel. Han trakk pavens autoritet i tvil, og etterhvert bidro bevegelsen rundt ham til at det oppsto et brudd med pavekirken.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Mye er gjort for \u00e5 hedre Luthers minne. Jeg har sett i b\u00f8ker fra 1600-, 1700- og 1800-tallet som stiller Luther i et meget d\u00e5rlig lys. Han blir ford\u00f8mt som menneske. I det tyvende \u00e5rhundret oppsto et skifte i den katolske Luther-forskningen, og vi aksepterer i dag at det var mye d\u00e5rlig innen den katolske kirke, og at Luther hadde gode intensjoner.<\/p>\n<p>Kardinalen forteller at han selv fryder seg over \u00e5 lese Luthers bibelkommentarer og salmetekster.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Men Luther kom med sterke utfall mot kirken. Han brukte harde ordelag, og vi kan ikke akseptere alle doktrinene hans. Han gikk for langt. Reform var n\u00f8dvendig, men ikke reformasjon.<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>V\u00e5rt Land trykket i dag et langt intervju med kardinal Kasper, og p\u00e5 nettsidene har de et kortere og noks\u00e5 annerledes vinklet stykke, der det bl.a. sp\u00f8rres: &laquo;Men det ble i mars sagt at Paven renvasker Luther. Hva er dette? \u2013 Det er falske rykter. 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