{"id":3848,"date":"2009-01-26T22:40:47","date_gmt":"2009-01-26T21:40:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1664"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:25:38","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:25:38","slug":"messen-forstas-gradvis-i-et-nytt-lys-pga-summorum-pontificum","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/01\/messen-forstas-gradvis-i-et-nytt-lys-pga-summorum-pontificum\/","title":{"rendered":"Messen forst\u00e5s gradvis i et nytt lys, pga Summorum Pontificum"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/09_ad_orientem.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> Bildet over viser en vanlig Novus ordo-messe feiret ad orientem. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newliturgicalmovement.org\/2009\/01\/ad-orientem-up-north-they-now-prefer-it.html\">Der sier presten<\/a>: &laquo;Jeg har feiret messen ad orientem siden starten av advent. Jeg hadde planlagt \u00e5 slutte etter jul, men forstetter \u00e5 feire ad orientem, for n\u00e5 foretrekker folk det.&raquo; <\/p>\n<p><i>&laquo;Som jeg har skrevet sv\u00e6rt mange ganger, pave Benedikts Summorum Pontificum ble f\u00f8rst og fremst gitt til prestene.&raquo;<\/i> Dette skriver father Z. p\u00e5 sin blogg, og han legger til: <i><font color=\"#333399\"><\/p>\n<p>The Holy Father\u2019s document &#8230; presented a new &laquo;hermeneutic&raquo; through which priests, especially younger priests, would begin to read Holy Mass and understand themselves at the Lord\u2019s altar.<\/p>\n<p>What Summorum Pontificum did was opening the possibility of hundreds of humble instances of the &laquo;gravitational pull&raquo; which the older form of Mass, through these priests, would have both on the way they celebrate the newer form and, subsequently, on the participation of people in Holy Mass.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p>Som eksempel p\u00e5 dette tar han med <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2009\/01\/a-priest-writes-lets-hang-up-the-old-mass\/\">et lite stykke skrevet av en ung prest<\/a>. (Forholdsvis f\u00e5 messer p\u00e5 norsk feires p\u00e5 den m\u00e5ten som beskrives under, men ganske mange messer i Norge bl.a. p\u00e5 filippinsk, spansk og engelsk ligner nok p\u00e5 dette. <a href=\"\/blog\/arkiv\/1660#comment-14564\">En av bloggens lesere<\/a> har v\u00e6rt p\u00e5 Kanari\u00f8yene og opplevd det.):<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">I realized this weekend that while I have been rediscovering the tradition, I have lost touch with the old Mass. Do not confuse this &laquo;old Mass&raquo; with the Traditional Latin Mass which for me is an ageless timeless discovery. The &laquo;old Mass&raquo; to which I refer is the Mass of my youth. It is the Mass of pianos and guitars, the Mass of loquacious commentators and &laquo;greet the people around you.&raquo; It is the Mass of audience participation and interior dullness. It is the Mass of primping cantresses and now-dated pop styled music about us. It is the Mass of candy jar ciboria and pewter chalices handled by an excessive number of extraneous ministers (who must process in and out of course). It hit me after the first Mass Sunday morning that, as a child born in the 70\u2019s, all of this has become terribly old and tired and compared to the timeless tradition of the Church and is just worn out. <\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> Bildet under viser <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newliturgicalmovement.org\/2009\/01\/st-willibrords-archbishop-of-utrecht.html\">en messe feiret ad orientem i St. Willibrord kirke av  erkebiskopen av Utrecht<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/09_ad_orientem2.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bildet over viser en vanlig Novus ordo-messe feiret ad orientem. Der sier presten: &laquo;Jeg har feiret messen ad orientem siden starten av advent. Jeg hadde planlagt \u00e5 slutte etter jul, men forstetter \u00e5 feire ad orientem, for n\u00e5 foretrekker folk det.&raquo; &laquo;Som jeg har skrevet sv\u00e6rt mange ganger, pave Benedikts Summorum Pontificum ble f\u00f8rst og [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3848","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3848","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3848"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3848\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5353,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3848\/revisions\/5353"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3848"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3848"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3848"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}