{"id":3962,"date":"2009-04-02T14:08:14","date_gmt":"2009-04-02T12:08:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/1785"},"modified":"2014-11-30T00:52:56","modified_gmt":"2014-11-29T22:52:56","slug":"er-det-nodvendig-a-sette-inn-ekstra-alter-i-en-kirke-med-h%c3%b8yalter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/04\/er-det-nodvendig-a-sette-inn-ekstra-alter-i-en-kirke-med-h%c3%b8yalter\/","title":{"rendered":"Er det n\u00f8dvendig \u00e5 sette inn ekstra alter i en kirke med h\u00f8yalter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>En av bloggens lesere har sendt meg f\u00f8lgende sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l: <i>&raquo; &#8230; eg har nettopp sett video fr\u00e5 bispevigsla. .. og min reaksjon er &#8230; Korfor i all verda vart det oppstilla ei spesielt alter slik at messen vart feira versus populum? Det var jo eit alter der messen feirast versus deum i forvegen. Er dette ikkje ei temmeleg fundamentalistisk bruk i den offisielle romerske kyrkja av versus populum princippet?&raquo; <\/i><\/p>\n<p>Mitt svar er at Kirken nok har v\u00e6rt noks\u00e5 fundamentalistisk p\u00e5 dette punktet de siste 40 \u00e5r, men at vi her har valgfrihet. I januar 2008 begynte pave Benedikt \u00e5 forandre dette noks\u00e5 forsiktig, ved den \u00e5rlige d\u00e5psmessen i Det sixtinske kapell versus Deum.<\/p>\n<p>I Norge vet jeg at St Paul menighet har valgt \u00e5 bruke de store h\u00f8yalterne n\u00e5r de l\u00e5ner &#8216;statskirker&#8217; ved spesielle anledninger &#8211; men jeg vet ikke om andre menigheter. Jeg har forst\u00e5tt at biskopen ikke har noe imot \u00e5 feire messen versus Deum ved slike anledninger, noe bildene under viser. Det f\u00f8rste bildet er fra Johanneskirken i Bergen, det andre fra F\u00f8rde kirke. (Bildene er fra St Paul menighets nettsider (men n\u00e5 er de borte).)<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/stp_messe_bergen.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/blog\/bilde\/stp_messe_forde.jpg\"\/> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En av bloggens lesere har sendt meg f\u00f8lgende sp\u00f8rsm\u00e5l: &raquo; &#8230; eg har nettopp sett video fr\u00e5 bispevigsla. .. og min reaksjon er &#8230; Korfor i all verda vart det oppstilla ei spesielt alter slik at messen vart feira versus populum? Det var jo eit alter der messen feirast versus deum i forvegen. 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