{"id":4177,"date":"2009-09-16T14:41:27","date_gmt":"2009-09-16T12:41:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2012"},"modified":"2012-06-06T22:26:00","modified_gmt":"2012-06-06T20:26:00","slug":"messer-for-de-d%c3%b8de-b%c3%b8r-brukes-ofte","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/09\/messer-for-de-d%c3%b8de-b%c3%b8r-brukes-ofte\/","title":{"rendered":"Messer for de d\u00f8de &#8211; b\u00f8r brukes ofte"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg skrev for kort siden om diskusjoner om hvordan en katolsk begravelse b\u00f8r v\u00e6re (se her) &#8211; det er f\u00f8rst og fremst b\u00f8nn for den avd\u00f8de.<\/p>\n<p>I dag leste jeg ogs\u00e5 et interessant innlegg om requiemmesser <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2009\/09\/quaeritur-when-can-i-say-a-requiem-tlm\/\">p\u00e5 WDTPRS<\/a>, bl.a. om reglene for n\u00e5r man kan feire en vanlig minnemesse for en avd\u00f8d &#8211; det fins egne regler selve begravelsesmessen. Jeg ser at reglene (for TLM) for messer p\u00e5 d\u00f8dsdagen, og for 3., 7. og 30. dag er litt andre enn i dag, men det er likt at reqiemmesser utenom disse spesielle dagene er de samme som i dag; dva. at de kan feires bare om man ikke har en obligatorisk minnedag for en helgen, elelr en viktigere fest.<\/p>\n<p><i><font color=\"#333399\">The rules for these daily Requiem Masses are along the lines of the rubrics for votive Masses.<\/p>\n<p>A Requiem is of the 2nd class on the day of death (or getting news of the death) or on the day of burial.  That\u2019s the Missa in die obitus seu depositionis defunctorum. It is of the 3rd class on the third, seventh, and thirtieth day after the death or burial.<\/p>\n<p>A &laquo;daily&raquo; Requiem is 4th class and can be used on ferial days of the 4th class.<\/p>\n<p>So\u2026 tomorrow 16 September is the Feast of Ss. Cornelius and Cyprian.  It is a 3rd class feast.  But the day after tomorrow, 17 September, is a &laquo;dies non&raquo;, a 4th class feria.  You can say the &laquo;daily&raquo; Mass for the Dead, the Missa quotidiana defunctorum.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n<p>I tillegg til dette sies det (i dagens regler) at man skal ta hensyn til folk som kommer i messen, s\u00e5 i en menighetsmesse passer det ikke alltid \u00e5 feire messe for en avd\u00f8d hvis mange som kommer til messen ikke kjenner vedkommende. Da b\u00f8r man heller &#8211; noe man alltid kan &#8211; nevne den avd\u00f8de p\u00e5 det fastsatte stedet i den eukaristiske b\u00f8nn.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeg skrev for kort siden om diskusjoner om hvordan en katolsk begravelse b\u00f8r v\u00e6re (se her) &#8211; det er f\u00f8rst og fremst b\u00f8nn for den avd\u00f8de. 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