{"id":4271,"date":"2009-12-01T21:00:52","date_gmt":"2009-12-01T19:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/aomoi.net\/blog\/arkiv\/2107"},"modified":"2012-02-13T11:22:51","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T10:22:51","slug":"40-ar-siden-den-nye-messen-ble-innf%c3%b8rt-synspunkter-pa-hvor-heldige-forandringene-var","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/2009\/12\/40-ar-siden-den-nye-messen-ble-innf%c3%b8rt-synspunkter-pa-hvor-heldige-forandringene-var\/","title":{"rendered":"40 \u00e5r siden den nye messen ble innf\u00f8rt – synspunkter p\u00e5 hvor heldige forandringene var"},"content":{"rendered":"

F\u00f8rste s\u00f8ndag i advent innf\u00f8rte pave Paul VI den nye messen, Nous ordo, og dette har blitt kommentert en del de siste dagene. Bl.a. har det st\u00e5tt en artikkel i New York Times<\/a>, som kommenterer denne tilbakekomsten av den gamle tradisjonen p\u00e5 en positiv m\u00e5te: «Benedict understands that his younger priests and seminarians \u2014 most born after Vatican II \u2014 are helping lead a counterrevolution. They value the beauty of the solemn high Mass and its accompanying chant, incense and ceremony. Priests in cassocks and sisters in habits are again common; traditionalist societies like the Institute of Christ the King are expanding.<\/p>\n

Chanting Latin, wearing antique vestments and distributing communion only on the tongues (rather than into the hands) of kneeling Catholics, Benedict has slowly reversed the innovations of his predecessors. And the Latin Mass is back, at least on a limited basis, in places like Arlington, Va., where one in five parishes offer the old liturgy.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n

Denne artikkelen er blitt kommentert (stort sett av menensker som ikke likte at New York Times trykte en artikkelen med slike tradisjonalistiske synspunkter) HER<\/a> og HER<\/a>.<\/p>\n

Commonweal (f\u00f8rste lenke) tar med en ekstra kommentar fra forfatteren til den opprinnelige artikkelen, de rhan sier: «I see the same, tired arguments by most others above: Vatican II is settled, the novus ordo is set in stone until the end of the world and anyone who dares remind us there was a Church before the mid-20th century will be maligned as an univited guest.<\/p>\n

Like it or not, Benedict XVI is a fan of traditionalists. Two of his biggest actions thus far into the papacy have been the motu proprio Summorum Pontificum (essentially removing bishops from decisions regarding the traditional Latin Mass and all the pre-VII sacraments) and the un-excommunication of the four living SSPX bishops. Next up is to fully reconcile the SSPX.<\/p>\n

Yet I see scoffing and Upper West Side-esque dismissal by those who (in my opinion) don\u2019t want to face reality. The Church is swinging back to the right. You may not like that, and you are entitled to your opinion. But you ought to act a little less surprised and angry that a traditionalist viewpoint could be aired in the mainstream media.<\/font><\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

F\u00f8rste s\u00f8ndag i advent innf\u00f8rte pave Paul VI den nye messen, Nous ordo, og dette har blitt kommentert en del de siste dagene. Bl.a. har det st\u00e5tt en artikkel i New York Times, som kommenterer denne tilbakekomsten av den gamle tradisjonen p\u00e5 en positiv m\u00e5te: «Benedict understands that his younger priests and seminarians \u2014 most […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[11],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4271","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-liturgi"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4271"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5217,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4271\/revisions\/5217"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4271"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4271"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/aomoi.net\/blogg\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4271"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}